Ep 191 : 2024 Election, Trump, and Thanksgiving ft Ashwin, Victor, & Stephanie

Raphael Harry [00:00:00]:
Like, oh, no. Yeah.

Stephanie [00:00:01]:
I I I

Raphael Harry [00:00:01]:
have one black friend. Okay?

Stephanie [00:00:04]:
I voted for Obama. 20,082,012. I'm not one of them bad ones.

Raphael Harry [00:00:09]:
Well, actually, it's only 2,008. Mhmm. Because the data didn't show they didn't vote for him the second time. After he said Trayvon Martin could have been my son, it was like

Stephanie [00:00:17]:
That's right.

Raphael Harry [00:00:18]:
Oh, take it back. Right. Some of them

Ashwin [00:00:20]:
didn't do it.

Raphael Harry [00:00:21]:
Yep. That's why they were like, oh, nope. He's not offering hope. We thought we killed racism after we voted for Obama the first time, and then he said Trayvon Martin could have been my son. Oh, no. Take take. No. Nope.

Raphael Harry [00:00:33]:
Uh-uh. He became black that day. Hey everybody. Rafael Harry here. You are listening to White Label American. On this show, we dive into unique and diverse origin stories from immigrants and allies. Join us weekly as we break barriers, connect the past with the present and peek into the future. Welcome to another episode of White Label American.

Raphael Harry [00:01:08]:
Thank you all for joining us today and is if you've been with us from day 1, thank you. If you just join us after the 6th year anniversary, thank you for being with us. If you're looking for more ways to support and keep this podcast running, well, run to Patreon, run to the website, run to our merch store, run to the good places, and donate. Don't be like those people where, like, I I support you, and then you don't show up to the polls to support. Do the right thing. Alright? That's all I'm a tell you. So with that being said, I'm not alone today. I have some distinguished guests with me in the studio virtually.

Raphael Harry [00:01:51]:
You know one of them. 2 of them are brand new guests for the first time appearing on the on this podcast, and I'm honored to have them here with us today. So we're not gonna go in alphabetical order because if we're going alphabetical order, it will be our most regular guest that will go first, and he's the chaos master. You guys already know who he is, so he will be the last person to introduce himself. So we're gonna start with, our one of our first timers. She hosts the MOCA minutes, and she's a wonderful sister, awesome, great person I've met. You know? I love bringing great people here, but when you meet this person Mhmm. One to 1, you're like, wow.

Raphael Harry [00:02:30]:
She's just amazing and good people. I love meeting good people. So I had to bring her here today to come talk on this episode. And, oh, before I even go to our guest, this episode is all about the recent general elections, and I know we're still counting the results from California and, probably Oregon, but you know what the deal is. So we're here to talk about it. Immigrants have opinions. People here have opinions. Everybody got opinions, but you know what side we own, and that's the side that's about to talk.

Raphael Harry [00:03:01]:
So with that being said, let's meet our first guest, Stephanie from Miss MOCA Minutes. Welcome to the podcast.

Stephanie [00:03:11]:
Hi. Hi. Thank you so much for having me.

Raphael Harry [00:03:14]:
Thank you for joining us. How are you

Stephanie [00:03:15]:
doing today? I'm excited. I will say I'm excited to be here, but with the topic, it's like, oh, I wish I wasn't here.

Raphael Harry [00:03:23]:
Yeah. It's exciting times,

Ashwin [00:03:25]:
but we

Raphael Harry [00:03:26]:
really understand.

Stephanie [00:03:29]:
Like, I wish I I'm like, I'm not I shouldn't oh, wish it was a celebration. I

Raphael Harry [00:03:35]:
really wish. I wish so too, but hey. Hey. Mhmm. I feel you on that. And our award winning brother from Liquor Talks. Why why why keep adding on s? That's why I'm that's why you you got the link. Right?

Stephanie [00:03:50]:
Because you're black. Yes.

Raphael Harry [00:03:51]:
Yes.

Stephanie [00:03:51]:
Because you're black. We add s's to everything.

Raphael Harry [00:03:53]:
That's you see? So in case anyone was doubting, now you know now you know. So he's the host of the award winning show, liquor talk podcast, and I had the honor of being a guest on his podcast. Took 3 years for that to happen, but it still happened. And I'll be back again. I know that for sure. And he's a fantastic person. I love seeing him on stage when he talks, not only on his podcast, and it's just amazing seeing him. And if you wanna see the video, go on Patreon, watch the video, see the awesome you know, the t shirt he's wearing reminds me of my Brazil that I love supporting.

Raphael Harry [00:04:25]:
So, you know, see, we're on the same wavelength right now. So with that being said, welcome on the show, Victor. How are you doing?

Victor [00:04:32]:
Hey. I feel good, man. I'm doing good. And it took you about 3 years to bring me on white label America.

Raphael Harry [00:04:37]:
Hey. Hey. Hey. Too shit. Too shit.

Stephanie [00:04:38]:
We kinda

Victor [00:04:39]:
even over here. Too shit.

Raphael Harry [00:04:42]:
I thought I could stick that away. I thought I could stick that in. But hey. You know, there's a saying that we have that when you point one finger at somebody, you you got 3 pointing back at you. So that just happened in real time. So you know? That's why you guys should support this show so that, you know, I don't be pointing fingers at with my guests so that you know? And they don't point back at me too. But, anyway Oh, man. And the chaos master, how are you doing today?

Ashwin [00:05:14]:
I'm doing I like how you pointed a finger, and he pointed a gun back at you. Yeah.

Ashwin [00:05:18]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:05:20]:
He's from he's from the states that, you know, they they got they got guns there too. So Salaam.

Stephanie [00:05:27]:
Wait. Not you from a 92 gunfight because Hector was ready. He was ready. Let me just empty this clip real quick.

Ashwin [00:05:34]:
Like, I got you had one lot in the chamber.

Raphael Harry [00:05:37]:
But that's that's why he's here.

Ashwin [00:05:38]:
He's ready. Wow. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:05:40]:
In case anyone doubted

Stephanie [00:05:41]:
He's like, keep talking.

Ashwin [00:05:47]:
You already know who who I am and

Raphael Harry [00:05:49]:
what's up. So before we officially dive into the topic at hand, does anyone have anything new coming up that, you know, you like to share with the audience? If you have any, you know, something you gotta plug in here, please plug it ahead before we go into our our main topic of the day.

Stephanie [00:06:12]:
I don't think so. Can I

Ashwin [00:06:13]:
go first?

Raphael Harry [00:06:14]:
Yes, please.

Ashwin [00:06:14]:
You Can I okay? December 3rd. Okay. December 3rd, 10 AM. 6 Center, Brooklyn. Okay. It's right off the, J Street A Train. Okay. I'm doing an exhibition.

Ashwin [00:06:30]:
It's 10 projects now. Originally, it was supposed to be 6. Now it's grown to 10. 10 different student projects on the topic of belonging. So it's an innovation showcase. Different kinds of tech and services all related to the notion of belonging in New York City.

Raphael Harry [00:06:56]:
Mhmm.

Ashwin [00:06:56]:
So it's it's free. It's a free event. If anyone is, invited, it is not catered. Okay?

Raphael Harry [00:07:05]:
Bring your own food. What is their cell phone? Candy.

Ashwin [00:07:08]:
There might be candy.

Raphael Harry [00:07:11]:
Well, them students know how to they know they know how to get me because last time I was

Stephanie [00:07:15]:
They know

Ashwin [00:07:15]:
how to buy votes. They know how to buy votes. Yeah. They are very good at it. Yeah. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:07:21]:
Yeah. So come true if you can, and, I'll be there. So, yes, you'll see me. And, you know, the students be trying to get me on their side, so, you know, they'll be throwing all the candies at me. So Mhmm. Yeah. We know that. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:07:34]:
Yeah. Anybody got anything happening?

Victor [00:07:38]:
2 things. 1, new episodes of liquor talk are coming out, and also liquor talk is now gonna be on the white not on the, National Black Guy Podcast Network, the MBG Podcast Network. Oh. They were at Afros and Audios, so we that collaboration happened. So we just started talking and well, look at talks on a podcast network now.

Raphael Harry [00:07:58]:
Congratulations. I don't have the clapping sound board yet, but yeah. Congratulations. That's good to

Stephanie [00:08:05]:
know, man. Good to hear. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:08:06]:
I don't know. I don't have champagne to pop up right now, but, you know, but that's good. That's good. Miss Moka, do you have something? Oh, she came ready too.

Stephanie [00:08:17]:
I know I did. It's like, we talked I knew what we were talking about. I'm like, let me get my nice little frogan frozen margarita. It'll be pure liquor by the time we finish talking, but just new episodes of MOCA Minutes. I am gearing up to launch officially my YouTube channel where I'll be talking a little bit more expanding episodes and also posting my episodes there. So that is on my this is no pun intended. That's project 2025 for me, and my project doesn't harm anyone.

Raphael Harry [00:08:49]:
There we go. I I can testify to that. Yes. Yeah. Her project adds value to you to you.

Victor [00:08:55]:
Hey. Sign me up for her project 2025.

Raphael Harry [00:08:58]:
Yeah. I'll sign me up too. Sign me up too. Yeah. So as soon as your YouTube is up, please let us know. We'll follow you, and I'll encourage everybody to go follow. And, yes, it's it's a it's a great she's a great resource to have in your cabinet. You know? So we all know how the general elections went, and the results are what the results are.

Raphael Harry [00:09:23]:
My starting question is this. When is the right time to hold voters accountable? Because I keep seeing, you know, some weird heartaches from so from big media houses, all talking about those all the the what because of the economics, people want talking about, you know, I've voted because of economics. You know, I failed inflation and all this stuff. But at the end of the day, it boils down to the voters. You had choices. And this was, like, the clearest choice I've ever seen. The other countries don't have choices this clear. And people are asking from other countries like, hey.

Raphael Harry [00:10:04]:
Well well, what happened? What's going on? Why why did it go like this? So why is that the frame is always avoid holding the voters accountable, but skip to just every other reason out there? Like, the economics didn't affect the people who voted for vice president Harris. I mean, I mean, we're not in the same economy or what. So, yeah, when when is it the right time to hold the voters accountable and say this is what they wanted, and they voted for this, and we know what this is?

Stephanie [00:10:38]:
So, Rafael, the they keep making a word silent. They're they don't want to blame white voters. White voters don't want to be voted. They don't want to take the blame in this. Oh, it's very much like RuPaul's Drag Race. Look over there. It's like, nope, baby. We're looking at the percentages.

Stephanie [00:10:59]:
This is on y'all. And the minority that voted for Harris is like, baby, you'd be like, don't don't lump us in. I'm like, but the majority that voted for Trump had no problem lumping every oppressed group in this country together.

Raphael Harry [00:11:15]:
Yeah.

Stephanie [00:11:15]:
And now y'all wanna wear blue bracelets and say, let's agree to disagree. Listen. Like, yeah. Only people who do stuff on the wrong side of history are, like, let's just let's agree to disagree and not make politics like ending friendships because, now people getting a little more vocal. They're not showing up to weddings. They're not coming to Thanksgiving. Y'all y'all tables are gonna you're gonna be basically you might as well just make popcorn and jelly beans and toast. Like, this is like, Charlie Brown Thanksgiving because no one's coming to y'all houses.

Stephanie [00:11:45]:
Mhmm. This is on y'all.

Victor [00:11:47]:
Yeah. Yes. It is definitely on y'all because if you look at the numbers, Harris had the black vote and the other man minority vote. And, also, we gotta blame the and the urban areas too. Guess what? Harris is voting them as well, but we gotta blame the your rural areas. Like, y'all need to be held accountable. Like, no wonder why y'all ain't got shit. And I look at some states who, like, rank, like, like, in the bottom of education, and I'm like, no wonder we got why y'all went red because y'all just y'all y'all just insanity.

Victor [00:12:21]:
Like, it it it has to be held accountable. Like, no. Y'all gonna see it when shit becomes astronomical and we can't afford shit. No. Y'all really gonna see it.

Stephanie [00:12:34]:
Correct.

Raphael Harry [00:12:35]:
Yeah. Awesome.

Ashwin [00:12:38]:
Correct. I'm I'm I'm I'm just very interested

Ashwin [00:12:43]:
in this person who does not vote. And I'm still trying to figure because, like, I've been I'm not I'm not a citizen. I cannot vote. But I have been doing my research, and it does seem that voting is kind of easy. There aren't that many, like, barriers to it. You know, you can register online. They send you a mail ballot. You fill it in.

Ashwin [00:13:06]:
You send it out. I still don't I'm not is it like people don't know there is an election going on? I'm wondering, like, how many people just didn't even know that there was an election going on? Is that even possible in the 21st century? Or also just be like, yeah, but it doesn't matter, like, which way I vote. Like, it doesn't affect them. Are there so many people for whom actually doesn't affect them in their daily lives at all? I'm just it's just I'm just trying to figure out who is this non voter person. Are they living are they, like, aware and not doing it? Or are they just living in an alternative reality? You know?

Stephanie [00:13:48]:
And that's the funny thing, Ashwin, because when you look at, like, actual voting stats of people who vote, like, the actual people who are eligible, it's usually between 50 60% of the people who can actually vote.

Ashwin [00:14:01]:
Yeah.

Stephanie [00:14:01]:
So so when I record and I, man, it just makes me angry every time I think about it. I can give again, here I am. We're I'm black and I'm still giving grace. I'm a black woman still giving grace and I want to literally smack a whole lot of people, and I'm still giving you grace. But people who have a record of never voting Mhmm. It's kinda like my anger is not really towards you only be only because you don't usually vote. Mhmm. But I feel but the numbers keep have steadily been going up because gone are the days where we're just voting for lesser of 2 evils.

Raphael Harry [00:14:33]:
Yep.

Stephanie [00:14:34]:
It's like now it's like you're just voting against evil. And for some odd reason, actually, I know the reason, that people don't like, white people don't wanna hold this bag. It's like you don't want to sit here and just say, hey. I know I say I want change. No. I want everything to remain the same. Meaning, I still want to be top of the food chain, and I'm tired of these brown people and these gay people getting ahead of me. Basically, they're mad that, oppressed groups have pianos in their house, and they don't have no piano.

Stephanie [00:15:06]:
I'm like, can you play the piano? No. No. No. I just want a piano. I'm like point.

Ashwin [00:15:10]:
It's not even that, yeah, that they want a piano. It's more like, oh, nobody should have a piano.

Raphael Harry [00:15:15]:
That's it.

Stephanie [00:15:17]:
Every time I think about racism, I think about that scene in Rosewood. And it's like, like, before they literally ran out to lynch the whole town, one guy was like, he got a piano in his house. I ain't got no piano, and nobody looked around and said, but do you even know how to play? You literally look at that as like, oh my gosh. He he basically has something that I don't, like, but it's something that you can't use anyway.

Victor [00:15:42]:
Or you just mad that you don't have the ability to go get a piano or get something of value, and you're mad that the the color person, they use their resources to come up, and you're just mad about it. And now you're trying to do whatever you can to mess things up for him. But in reality, you're gonna mess things up for yourself because if you look at a lot of benefits, they wanna slash and stuff. Guess who are the primary beneficiaries? It ain't the color folk. It's the other race

Raphael Harry [00:16:11]:
of the people.

Stephanie [00:16:12]:
It can't be the minority. There's a majority of the rights. It's like, that's literally not how any of this works.

Raphael Harry [00:16:17]:
It's true.

Stephanie [00:16:18]:
This affects you too, poor white people.

Raphael Harry [00:16:20]:
That's true. It affects you. Now the Sunday before the general election, I was talking to someone, in my neighborhood, and she was like, all politicians are corrupt. So, you know, she had no interest in who wins and whatnot. And she's also an immigrant from, Russia, but from a minority that you think that, but who'll be white passing. And I was like, So you're not interested in anything that could affect you? The this outcome you you are also part of this outcome. And she's like, it doesn't matter. They're all corrupt.

Raphael Harry [00:17:08]:
And I was like, why do you go to they're all corrupt. How does that work with you? Would your your your children go to a school? Does our position as being corrupt affect your children's school or not? And she was like, well, you know, they'll let if they do something good, it's just for, it's popular. That's why they did they did it. And I said, oh, no. No. No. No. No.

Raphael Harry [00:17:31]:
I'm not gonna let we're not gonna just like, I want you to explain why you think so. And why is it that when you, you know, your your people got certain rights, you benefited from the Civil Rights Act, which everybody only talked as if only black people benefited from. But every other minority has benefited from that. And even when, you know, they they've eventually took the Chinese exclusion act, it was because civil rights act had been passed, and all that started every other thing started dropping. Every other thing started going down. But she eventually she benefited massively from civil rights act. And I'm trying to point that out to her and, you know, yeah. But you see, my family came from and that's when the she dropped the the the the bomb drop happened, and she was like, well, I was 3 years old when my when I left the country where I was born.

Raphael Harry [00:18:27]:
And my family lived under these dictators and all this, and I was like, okay. So you never really experienced what you claim to your family experienced.

Stephanie [00:18:37]:
Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:18:38]:
And that led to you saying because your parents said all politicians are corrupt, so you don't vote. You don't participate, but you just done the whole process because of that Yeah. And everybody's the same. So even when you have 2 candidates who are the difference is as is like daylight and nighttime, you resort to they're both the same, or is it that you're comfortable with racism happening? I mean, it doesn't affect you because if it affects you, I'm pretty sure you would have taken a stand. And that's when she dropped her religion, which is part of their minority stance to have a group that, oh, I'm not I'm not white. I'm this. That's why I'm like, yeah. I know.

Stephanie [00:19:21]:
Mhmm. But No, baby.

Raphael Harry [00:19:23]:
Mm-mm. You you know that you're on the because the last time Trump was in office, your people, a lot of anti Semitic attacks went up. People forget that. It's like it's convenient to just say, oh, you know, because the Palestine thing, forget the anti Semitic attacks went up. So you are now convenient. You'd think, oh, I don't need to vote on all this. That's alright. I'm not gonna waste time preaching to you anymore, but hey.

Raphael Harry [00:19:48]:
She signed up to listen to the podcast, so, we'll see. But I just had to throw that out there because some people say, oh, you know, I have another person. He's, of African, and he was like, you know, I don't care who wins. The I I just, you know, I I I like Harris, but, Trump's a business guy. And I was like, okay. If you didn't care, you didn't have to go. No. You have to add that that point.

Raphael Harry [00:20:17]:
You know? But what what do you mean by business guy? Do you run your business like he does? Do you is that how you operate? Is that if somebody runs a business like he does and doesn't pay you, are you comfortable? Are you happy? Is that the way you'd operate? And the language changed after that. Like, oh, man. I was just joking. Oh, there you know. Hey. You're gonna come to my kid's bed there. I'm like, I don't yeah. You ain't gonna see me, but people start showing themselves when, you know, the the moment you question them, when they say, oh, I don't vote.

Raphael Harry [00:20:46]:
But all positions are the same, and you ask that extra question. Why? You start seeing cracks with their whys. Because is it that they rope everybody in the same basket or I've not had a position come say come speak to me in to they have to address me in which speak what I need to hear. And I'm like, who who are you? There's a group everybody has their request. Everybody has what they want to hear, but, you are claiming there's 2 people. They are both evil in your opinion, but they should both say what you want to hear. Are you so I mean, you're evil too. I mean, you you fit into your own description.

Raphael Harry [00:21:29]:
So I I just had to bring that up. And then the last example I'll bring is a sad one, but he this gentleman in my neighborhood, older guy, much older guy, he's probably 7 closer to eighties, lived in a rent controlled apartment, Used to be nice with the kids. And then one day, you know, he's like, you know, I don't vote because I don't care about all these, politicians, that kind of thing. They're all corrupt, that kind of level. Last time I voted was for, what's his name? Ross Pirot from the nineties, The independent guy. Yeah. And then he tried to be like a Benny bro, but said

Stephanie [00:22:08]:
He was a terror, honey.

Raphael Harry [00:22:09]:
So I was like, okay. Well, I try to have a reasonable conversation with him, but even with the wise, when you ask him about why he keeps jumping to this democrat was corrupt. This one was Obama was corrupt. I'm like, god. Damn. But you can't explain your whys. Right? So I just okay. That's good.

Raphael Harry [00:22:29]:
That's good. Because some people, you don't waste time arguing with them, and you move on. 2 weeks later, he's, I I don't see him. We're at our usual place where we hang out. And I asked my neighbor, where is that guy? I haven't seen him around. And they're like, oh, he lost his apartment. He's been evicted from the apartment, a rent control apartment, which you're supposed to have access to, but you've not been vote you don't even know the power that you have. In New York City, where they have a strong housing commission that you can go to talk to, and they will fight for you.

Raphael Harry [00:22:59]:
But he's with this mindset of I don't vote. I don't care. I'll let vote for independent guy who doesn't care about your local issues. So look at you voting against your own interest. By the way, he's not black. He's not, I think he's he's a he was white person or a white guy, but it was just sad to see that happen to him in a neighborhood that he's lived in for, like, 30 years. And that's how I don't know where he's probably in a homeless shelter now. But

Stephanie [00:23:27]:
Oh.

Raphael Harry [00:23:27]:
He's still going on with probably still going on with that I don't vote mentality. And Mhmm. If you don't put you don't question people and say, hey. What is this I don't vote? What is the benefit of not voting of withholding your vote? Why is there only a message of withhold your vote being put out to black people every 4 years? You don't put it out to white people. You don't put it out to conservatives. You don't tell them, woah. We told you I vote until they come talk to you. Why are you always trying to tell black people to be told their votes every 4 years? Why do you make it commercials They don't do that?

Stephanie [00:24:01]:
They don't want black people to vote Exactly. If they know

Raphael Harry [00:24:04]:
You've never wanted black people to vote right from the beginning, right from day 1.

Stephanie [00:24:10]:
So this is funny because, historically, in in America, technically, free black men had the right vote before white women.

Raphael Harry [00:24:19]:
Yes.

Stephanie [00:24:20]:
And a lot of people did not know that.

Raphael Harry [00:24:22]:
Yes.

Stephanie [00:24:22]:
And so then black people kept putting more black people in the office, and they said, uh-uh. We're getting them out of here. Mhmm. And so then so when you hear some white women talk about, oh, we like, oh, voting for us, we had to earn the right. I'm like, let's be very clear. Some of y'all ancestors only want to really vote, not because they wanted to be equal to their white partners. They didn't want black free black men to have a one off on them. They're like, oh, uh-uh.

Stephanie [00:24:49]:
Because, like, y'all can look like, I know people are like, it's alleged comments from Susan b Anthony, but, baby, let's be very clear about the time frame of when this happened. If you think that she didn't say something like this or something close to that saying I would rather die before I see a n word, having votes that I that have rights that I don't, like, to be very clear, they were mad that free black men were able to vote because they were men. Because voting used to be just like land white land owners. You had to own land. If you're a poor white person, you couldn't vote and then they opened it up to poor white people. When it came to being actually white in this country, you had to be born here. So anybody any white, like, person with white skin or white passing and they had white skin, they were not considered white. So, hey, hi, for Jewish people, Italian people, yeah, a lot of y'all were on those segregation signs.

Stephanie [00:25:42]:
True. And then they figured that out. Hey. We need some we hey. 1, 2, 3. We need more teeth. So we let we gonna let Italian people be white now. We gonna let Jewish people be considered white now.

Stephanie [00:25:52]:
We're gonna let, like, people who weren't born here and they got white skin just like us. We gonna let them be white because we need more numbers. A lot of people don't remember they don't know that. It's like, oh, yeah. Tell your people you'll be on those signs too. I've I've I've seen

Raphael Harry [00:26:06]:
the signs. I've read I've read about it, and I've seen the signs. I met the first time I read about it, and I saw the signs, and I was like, wow. This is it's crazy. I know the the the the weird thing is that when you go to Europe and you go to some of the countries these people are from and you call them white there in some places, they they they start trying to fight you. They they try to fight you. Like, why are you calling me white? Mhmm. And then in America, it's completely different.

Raphael Harry [00:26:35]:
Yeah. And that's why because

Stephanie [00:26:36]:
we go with race first.

Raphael Harry [00:26:37]:
Yeah.

Stephanie [00:26:37]:
And everybody else goes ethnicity and nationality, then race. We are race, ethnicity, and nationality.

Raphael Harry [00:26:44]:
So that's why when somebody is like, oh, I'm I'm 7th I'm I'm Italian American. I'm like, were you born in Italy?

Ashwin [00:26:51]:
No.

Raphael Harry [00:26:51]:
I'm I'm 7th generation.

Stephanie [00:26:53]:
My grandfather was

Raphael Harry [00:26:54]:
So I'm 8th no. It was up 8th generation. No. I'm like, oh. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:27:01]:
Okay. I see. I see. Yeah. Just just checking because I I I kinda see where you okay. I get you. So you're white? Are you are you black?

Ashwin [00:27:10]:
Which which one? Which one? Because

Raphael Harry [00:27:14]:
yeah. Yeah. Because I I know the I know the Italians that they they call black. Even though when you see them by American standard, you will say, oh, they're white. But in Italy, they call them black. And you're like, oh. Mhmm. Yeah.

Stephanie [00:27:25]:
Oh oh, baby. Some Sicilians, you'd be like Oh, yeah. You will better you'll be very confused.

Ashwin [00:27:29]:
You're like, wait.

Raphael Harry [00:27:30]:
It's it's weird, but the whiteness game means increased numbers. The one they need numbers, then they oh, you you're from, s, Albania. You you're part of us now. You're from Greece. You're part of us now. But go to those countries and go call them whites, then you might get stabbed. Mhmm. Somebody might stab you and say, what what you call me? Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:27:51]:
But I but, yeah, that's the the unfortunate thing. Well, I don't know what would what what it would take for people to own up, but there's this weird Mhmm. It's like pearl clutching. As soon as, you know, anytime we get close to the truth, we'll start touching their their, clutching their pearls. Well, I said it opposite. Clutching their pearls, and they're like, Like, oh, no. Yeah. I I have one black friend.

Raphael Harry [00:28:19]:
Okay.

Stephanie [00:28:20]:
I voted for Obama. 20,082,012. I'm not one of them bad ones.

Raphael Harry [00:28:26]:
Well, actually, it's only 2,008. Because the data didn't show that they didn't vote for him the second time. After he said Trayvon Martin could have been my son, it was like

Stephanie [00:28:34]:
That's right.

Raphael Harry [00:28:35]:
We'll take it back.

Ashwin [00:28:35]:
Right. Obama didn't do it.

Raphael Harry [00:28:38]:
Yep. That's why they were like, oh, nope. He's not offering hope. We thought we killed racism after we voted for Obama the first time, and then he said Trayvon Martin could have been my son. Oh, no. Take take. No.

Stephanie [00:28:48]:
He Nope. Uh-uh.

Raphael Harry [00:28:50]:
He became black that day.

Stephanie [00:28:51]:
Who considered themselves good white people until and when you talk in absolutes, are you basically addressing the entire demo?

Raphael Harry [00:28:59]:
They're like,

Stephanie [00:28:59]:
wait a minute. You're not talking about me. If you know you're doing the right thing, you don't have to ask me that.

Raphael Harry [00:29:04]:
Hello.

Stephanie [00:29:05]:
You, baby, I'm looking at your demo. You looking at your demo. Yeah. You should be if you are like, what are they, quote, unquote, good ones, you actually should be mad at that more than we should because it's like, what the heck are y'all doing? Y'all make it like, baby, y'all demo was embarrassing you. Don't look at me and get mad that I'm pointing it out. You should've don't meet me there, beat me there.

Raphael Harry [00:29:28]:
For real. So, Victor

Victor [00:29:31]:
Yes, sir.

Raphael Harry [00:29:32]:
What did you think about this framing by the media also after the results were announced, and they always have lessons for Democrats about how to move forward, what the Democrats need to do. But I've never noticed this type of language when it's the GOP that loses an election. It always seems to be for democrats that everybody has. Mhmm. No. You maybe you should have you know, like, Ben Sanders came out and was like, hey. It's about, you you need to talk to the working class. Apparently, only white people are the working class to our country.

Stephanie [00:30:09]:
Go back to his court.

Raphael Harry [00:30:10]:
That's why he he can never win a primary.

Stephanie [00:30:13]:
Right, sir. Get oh, bye. Get out of here.

Victor [00:30:16]:
Yes, please. Please go along. Who's controlling the media. Look at who these directors are for these media networks as well. Like, why are y'all only doing this? Like, who's funding y'all to only get on the Democratic side? Like,

Raphael Harry [00:30:32]:
man, come on now. Mhmm. Yeah. Ridiculous. That's that's I mean, follow the follow the money.

Stephanie [00:30:39]:
For Rafael, this is because the GOP has always been this, one band, one sound. They do not they're not splitting their party up. They're not going from moderate to center to far left for Democrat. They're not doing this. Even when we had the Tea Party, even you got this Trump is it Trumpers Trumpers and MAGA, You don't notice the Republican party splitting on anything. One band.

Raphael Harry [00:31:07]:
That's right. One sale. Keep to that goal.

Stephanie [00:31:09]:
Just the drumline. Okay? MAGA's the drumline. Okay? Like, we not you're not beating up our band.

Raphael Harry [00:31:16]:
They have one goal in mind, and they stick to that goal. We're gonna take our portion down. 50 means 50 years. Stick to the plan. Everybody march straightforward. But he doesn't shoot guns. It don't matter. March straightforward.

Raphael Harry [00:31:29]:
Face forward, everybody go. That's their their mission. Ashwin, you got something to say about that?

Ashwin [00:31:37]:
So I have a question. So, sorry. This is something about what you said earlier, which makes a lot of sense is that you would imagine, therefore, that people would vote more in in an election where it matters to them directly. Mhmm. But then why don't people vote in local elections? And even when you look at, like,

Stephanie [00:32:00]:
for instance Bad part. Like talking about the full ballot. It's like it's still like, oh, you do one okay. Time to go home.

Ashwin [00:32:06]:
That's what I'm wondering. So because, yeah, you can say fine. Whatever the president doesn't matter. But then still, why wouldn't you show up to vote for, like, the person who can help you, who is your council person or congress person who, you know

Stephanie [00:32:20]:
No judges.

Ashwin [00:32:20]:
You can yeah. Exactly. And someone you can,

Stephanie [00:32:22]:
like, DM

Victor [00:32:24]:
and that directly affects you. Yes.

Ashwin [00:32:26]:
Someone who lives in your neighborhood, why wouldn't you show up to work for the I mean, especially because it's so easy. It's kind of easy.

Raphael Harry [00:32:36]:
I mean, we we have the New York example. I know people like to complain about Eric Adams being the mayor, and I always points them to the primaries. How many of you came out to vote in the primaries compared to the presidential election of 2020? Mhmm. And you see the 2021, primaries and then general election, the drop was whoops. It was it's it's a curve the curve went down, all the way down. And many people didn't come out. Like, well, you know, I I I know it's it's a blue. I live in a blue state or a blue city.

Raphael Harry [00:33:14]:
So I I don't need to come out and vote. My vote don't count, and I'm like Mhmm. But it affects you. So why are you complaining right now? What's the point of the complaint? You just like to hear yourself complain? Because if it matter to you, you'll be out there voting for your candidate. You have choices. Correct. Now if you voted and your choice loses, then it's different. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:33:36]:
Go ahead, Victor. Sorry.

Victor [00:33:39]:
You definitely need to, people need to pay more attention to the local things because the local things that's what directly affects you. Like, I'm looking at my home state of Florida like y'all are stupid, but because listen. Come on. Abortion didn't pass, and, also, legalizing marijuana didn't pass.

Stephanie [00:33:58]:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. In Florida. Yeah.

Victor [00:34:01]:
The red parts of Florida, like, what the hell are y'all doing when y'all think y'all hurting may may people feel like they're hurting the black community when really you're hurting yourselves, you idiots.

Raphael Harry [00:34:11]:
I mean, I I I I've seen I've seen

Stephanie [00:34:13]:
a lot

Raphael Harry [00:34:14]:
of white people from Florida, and I know. I'm like, I know. Yeah. And well, may maybe we should have had, what's it called? Back baiting salts on the on the ballot. Maybe that would have passed.

Stephanie [00:34:24]:
Go on,

Ashwin [00:34:25]:
I don't know. Legalize it. Oh.

Stephanie [00:34:30]:
Right. And

Ashwin [00:34:30]:
it's like, you already Right. And that's

Stephanie [00:34:32]:
like, you were to

Ashwin [00:34:32]:
legalize the way that you spoke

Stephanie [00:34:33]:
to me. It's like It's

Ashwin [00:34:34]:
a good one. It's such

Ashwin [00:34:35]:
a good one. Yeah.

Stephanie [00:34:37]:
Now I just think, like, what do y'all think about bath salts?

Ashwin [00:34:40]:
That was a good strategy. Yeah. I had to

Stephanie [00:34:42]:
put this one on the wall.

Ashwin [00:34:43]:
Who is quoting the zombie, yeah, the zombie electoral? Either. Oh, okay.

Ashwin [00:34:48]:
The zombie forecast.

Stephanie [00:34:50]:
Okay. So did anybody else notice that that we really didn't have, like, a fight for someone to be the Republican candidate this year? That's the part that I kinda noticed. I'm like, wait a minute.

Victor [00:35:01]:
We don't have literally

Stephanie [00:35:03]:
out of nowhere having all of these different people saying they wanna be the president, and we had nobody. It was like we really had no debates. We didn't even have debates in between, like, Harris and Trump. It's like, yeah. Because she woulda came out there prepared to deal with someone who said, I have a concept of plans.

Raphael Harry [00:35:21]:
There was nothing for him

Stephanie [00:35:22]:
to write. Had concepts, thoughts, and prayers. I'm like, and y'all still voted for this man literally saying this.

Raphael Harry [00:35:29]:
But, you know, he already said the main policy, which is she's a black woman. That that's what he pointed out. Because when he pointed out that, you know, I I never knew she was black. When he said that during the debate, I think that was the the main message that

Stephanie [00:35:44]:
he was like, girl, who said that?

Raphael Harry [00:35:46]:
When the shit happened? At the president. When people have, how many people have ended their presidential campaigns for, what's his name? The guy in this was it in seventies who couldn't pronounce something? Damn. I'm trying to remember his name. He he said something wrong on the debates or somebody. He messed up. There was something it's very minute in today's politics, and that ended his presidential campaign. And you have this guy openly being racist, and people are like, oh, yeah. You know, I I I he's a good businessman.

Raphael Harry [00:36:23]:
That's why I'm like, he's openly being racist. And You know? And No journalist is coming out there saying, that's my presidential. Joe Biden stumbles once, and everybody's like, oh, yeah. You gotta go. He gotta go. He has

Stephanie [00:36:36]:
a stuttering problem. Like, oh, he gotta go.

Raphael Harry [00:36:37]:
He gotta go. Too old. I'm like Nah. I'm not I'm not confident. Been Donald Trump. I'm not

Stephanie [00:36:41]:
confident. Elementary school, baby. What are you talking about?

Victor [00:36:45]:
Yeah. But elementary school. Pretty much. And, also, I noticed with this country, like, I I I'm not shocked by the results because it's like, they wouldn't even put Hillary in office over Trump. So I'm like so in the back of my mind, I'm

Stephanie [00:37:00]:
guessing woman since the seventies, eighties. They can't stand Hillary.

Victor [00:37:04]:
So you gotta think, like, if they couldn't put Hillary in office, what makes you think they were gonna put a black woman in office? Now our black people showed up for both of them, but it is sad to say that there are some people that are just dumb, and they're thinking that they think a woman can't lead the country.

Stephanie [00:37:21]:
Yeah. I don't think about it. It's like the vocal minority of black men speaking. They took the minority. You just talked to people that were speaking the loudest

Raphael Harry [00:37:31]:
Mhmm.

Stephanie [00:37:31]:
And said, they speak for them. And I'm like, yeah. I know y'all don't. It's like, I know y'all don't. It's like it's like majority of black men were like, I'm voting for Harris. Like, how is this a question? Like, I don't understand. But what got the views and the clicks were the ones that were like, I ain't gonna, like, no. No woman can run this party.

Stephanie [00:37:53]:
I don't like Kamala. She locked up black men. I'm like, Google is too free for y'all to be this stupid.

Raphael Harry [00:37:57]:
And you have chat Jeopardy. Now you have multiple. So, AI is to help you if

Stephanie [00:38:03]:
you're

Raphael Harry [00:38:03]:
still struggling on that. But Yeah. You know, is it finally time to admit how problematic the Manosphere podcasters are? You know, do we still act like it's only white's only problem? Because, you know, young No. Young first time voters voting for Yeah. Trump and a bunch of them claiming it's because he was on Rogan and was the other guy Von Trump or whatever. But I know those podcasts are big with a lot of young people of color. I'm dealing with one of them in my family right now. He was open about it that he loves Elon Musk.

Raphael Harry [00:38:36]:
And, later on, he was like, Hitler had great great ideas and implemented a lot

Victor [00:38:42]:
of great things.

Stephanie [00:38:43]:
Good points. I said, girl, stop.

Ashwin [00:38:45]:
I'm like, dude,

Raphael Harry [00:38:46]:
dude is, like, in his twenties.

Stephanie [00:38:48]:
Girl, stop.

Ashwin [00:38:49]:
Somebody Hitler didn't think he had good ideas.

Victor [00:38:52]:
Not using Google and chat GPT.

Raphael Harry [00:38:55]:
Yeah. They're not Yeah. But these young kids, there are a lot of them out there. Even I have one in the UK, also in his twenties, Jordan Peterson. He'll be trying to quote that to me like, hey. You know, for raising kids, you know, you might wanna try this for raising for raising your child. I'm like, why why would I listen to Jordan Peterson to raise my child? But Man, it's cool. These guys are not targeting people like us in our age group.

Raphael Harry [00:39:19]:
They target the young ones. I know a fellow podcaster, also, fellow veteran who caught his caught sitting in his kid because his kid started talking about these females need to behave this way to his own mom in the house. And What? He he's, a Puerto Rican, and he had to, like, check the boy. I was like, where are you getting this from? Why do you who do you who do you talking like this in our house? And the boy started pointing him to them, red pill podcast, and luckily, he was able to, like, start the mental breakdown of getting this boy out of it, detoxing the kid. Mhmm. And then the kid joined the military. So, hopefully, he got it out, the boy enough. The boy should be about 19 now.

Raphael Harry [00:40:03]:
But it was wild when he was talking about it.

Stephanie [00:40:05]:
The military?

Raphael Harry [00:40:06]:
Yeah. The boy eventually moved to the military, but the dad

Victor [00:40:09]:
could be making worse.

Raphael Harry [00:40:12]:
Well, I I was in the military too, so there's a little bit of hope because there's still some good people.

Stephanie [00:40:17]:
I

Raphael Harry [00:40:17]:
ain't gonna lie. But if you hang out with the wrong crowd, yeah. It's, but the fact that the dad caught it early and started our conversation with him and showed him that, this is not you know, the the other the weird thing they say, they all they always keep saying, men need to be alpha males. But in software developing, beta is higher than alpha. Right? And it's it's like they forget about that that they they're they're not aware that there's something higher than alpha, but they keep throwing alpha. We we men are supposed to be alphas. Men are supposed to be alpha. I'm like, there's something higher than alpha, you know, if you're just going by logic.

Raphael Harry [00:40:53]:
But it's a problem that I've been noticing among young men. It doesn't matter skin color. The the the these guys are supposedly was fully, targeting young people within the teenage age into young adults. So if you look at a lot of these young people and you talk to them about what you think Trump's first term in office was, I don't think they can tell you. They don't understand what the damages were. They just seen as a guy who was being harassed by the state. He's a strong leader. He's a strong man.

Raphael Harry [00:41:28]:
That's what my cousin sounds like. And I'm like, damn. It it's it's sad hearing it, but he can't defend any of his points. And sometimes you just wish you could shake it out of him, but you have to have some kind of patience to walk them out of it, but it's it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. So the main problem is the the the the podcasters pushing this thing towards these kids because at that age, their brains are aren't matured enough.

Stephanie [00:42:00]:
And now over 25? So their brains are still cooking? Yeah. And they know what to do. They're like so, like, yeah. Being on Rogan was extremely calculated because folks, like, it doesn't matter that Joe Rogan sometimes does not say the truth. He just be throwing stuff out there

Raphael Harry [00:42:15]:
and hurting

Stephanie [00:42:16]:
while he was peeing in the bathroom. It's like, it does not matter. He has no facts. He has no stats. He this is not real information, but it's Joe Rogan, and we love him. I'm like, imagine imagine you're hosting a reality show named Fear Factor, and now you are seen as a tastemaker in in current society after you literally were trying to convince somebody to lay in a coffin and let rats crawl over them for a certain time.

Victor [00:42:41]:
Let alone somebody eat some dog shit or

Raphael Harry [00:42:44]:
Oh, it

Stephanie [00:42:44]:
was like, girl, what is I'm like, who signed up for this?

Raphael Harry [00:42:49]:
All I know is the first time somebody tried to get me to listen to Joe Rogan, who was supposed to go on a road trip from, new from New Jersey to DC, a fellow veteran, by the way, but I think that's probably what began the end of our friendship. And I was supposed to be in the car to keep him awake, and he started playing Jurogan. I don't remember who Jurogan was interviewing, and I was like, man, this this is dumb, but I fell asleep. I just slept off, and my boy was so disappointed. He was like, man, I can't believe you you you know how you you didn't stay you you fell asleep on this Logan. Philosophical conversation. I was like, what is philosophical here? I used to start talk. Start talk gives me something.

Raphael Harry [00:43:31]:
Sir. Yeah. I I think this is not there was nothing to and I I just like, so even early in my podcast, somebody tried to compliment me and said, oh, man. You like the black Joe Rogan. I should have

Stephanie [00:43:44]:
No.

Raphael Harry [00:43:44]:
I should have cut it from the the signs that that person will go the way he went eventually, but, Yeah. I I had to push back and say, no. That's not I don't consider that a compliment. That's not I'm I'm my own person. Yeah. Well, if I if I get big, let me get big, but, no. It's not I'm not trying to turn teenagers into these these creatures that believe that the world is against them, and the world is ending if things do not happen in a certain manner. And all these people giving them these messages, they're all hypocrites because none of them live by whatever they are preaching.

Raphael Harry [00:44:25]:
None of them abide by those rules that they are setting for these kids. But the kids keep swallowing everything, consuming everything, thinking that this is it. This is the way to go. And if women

Ashwin [00:44:36]:
All these guys are not sexy. Married, by the way. Yeah. You know, the all these guys are married and and monogamous. Yeah. It's like,

Victor [00:44:44]:
the kids are like, yeah. We just I don't have

Ashwin [00:44:47]:
the auto one kid. Yeah.

Stephanie [00:44:48]:
Ain't, like, getting the most like us straight. It's like, what are you talking about? It's like, why why should they get the like, be married? I'm like, because some of y'all are literally embarrassing us.

Victor [00:44:57]:
Yes. Y'all are. Exactly.

Raphael Harry [00:45:01]:
So as

Ashwin [00:45:02]:
as gender dynamics is definitely I mean, yeah. I mean, you know, US, South Korea, especially I was reading. I have a student from South Korea who was telling me about, like, there. Apparently, the, the what you just mentioned, this kind of, like, this toxic masculinity. I don't even know what to call it anymore, but, it's very, very strong. And apparently now there is, like, kind of, like, a early beginnings of, like, a feminist movement. And now

Raphael Harry [00:45:30]:
Oh, I saw

Ashwin [00:45:31]:
that. I

Raphael Harry [00:45:31]:
saw that.

Ashwin [00:45:32]:
Much more of a lash back against women even supported by, like, the mainstream media. Not but also what you know, this kind of which I think I consider now these part like, podcasts and stuff, like, to be part of mainstream. I don't know the difference.

Raphael Harry [00:45:50]:
You know?

Stephanie [00:45:50]:
It's it's this is the problem, Ashwin. A lot of people are thinking that equality is a pie, and it has finite pieces, and that is literally not what it is. So when I hear them as I'm like, oh, I just wanna be like back in the day. I wanna be like before. These women don't wanna take care of men. I'm like, yeah, because you're not giving them a reason to. You also want, like, women to need you as opposed to want you. And it's like, dear gentlemen, you don't understand the power of a woman who wants you.

Stephanie [00:46:22]:
It's like, oh, she wants you. She gonna, like, bend some things. Like, yeah. Okay. So he got stinky feet, but, god, that man make me laugh. God, that man takes care of me. God, that man listens to me. If I'm having a bad day, he the one I wanna call.

Stephanie [00:46:37]:
So I'm like, I'm a look over some stuff because I want that person in my life. Need is so much stronger than want now because, yeah, women who needed men suffered through a whole lot. They're like, oh, girl. Like, they cried themselves to sleep. They go see their deceased spouses at the graveyard just to make sure that man's still dead. They're like, why are you here? Oh, you miss him? No. I'm just making sure he's still dead.

Victor [00:47:02]:
Damn.

Raphael Harry [00:47:03]:
Yep. That that is no joke. I had that before.

Stephanie [00:47:06]:
I just wanna make sure. I'm like, I wanna make sure he ain't like, because he pulled the okeydoke on me when he was left. I just wanna make sure that he is still gone because I don't need him coming back into my life and messing stuff up. Yeah. My I guess you've never seen those women at at the cemetery. I have when I go yeah. I I do.

Raphael Harry [00:47:26]:
I've I've heard that like, mm-mm. I I met somebody who told me that she she went down, And, yeah, I'm not gonna say the other part that she did, but I I I get it because where where she where she told me, and somebody's like, oh, we need to go back. We need to go back. I'm like, you you want that woman to go back to oh, hell no. You And and by the way, my my mom is also one of those women. Even though we're not on a great relationship, I don't want her to go back to the man who you know, my brother's dad who made life hell for her after marriage, and she came to America, then she discovered that man had 10 kids with 2 different women or maybe 3. I don't even know how many. That is Really? They were like

Stephanie [00:48:07]:
Come on. Come on.

Raphael Harry [00:48:08]:
Come on. Come on.

Stephanie [00:48:09]:
Come on.

Raphael Harry [00:48:09]:
And yeah. So that might not even be the end of the kids because my brother was born. And then so 11? How many? But, bro, when is it when was it gonna stop? But if you were if he never paid child support for those kids. So he was like, well, I know when he died, the ones in the UK because some became British citizens. They were like, why are you telling us? When, you know, my brother tried to inform them that, yeah. Your your dad dying. You're like, hey. My dad.

Raphael Harry [00:48:34]:
I never spoke to him for how many decades. And you is it their mom that will not care? Right? Like, you don't so people just wanna go back. Yeah. Don't you you go back. You time travel back and go go experience what what's happening then and be like, oh, you know what? Can I time travel back to where I'm coming from? I want to change. I I don't want that change anymore.

Stephanie [00:48:57]:
America was great. Go ahead and tell us. Which which which decade? Which time frame was so great? I'm pretty sure you're gonna talk about something in the 5th forties, fifties, sixties.

Raphael Harry [00:49:06]:
That's where they always go. Forties, fifties, sixties.

Victor [00:49:08]:
Wanna go back. I'm like And they don't

Stephanie [00:49:09]:
know what

Ashwin [00:49:10]:
is in there.

Stephanie [00:49:10]:
They just

Ashwin [00:49:11]:
go to

Victor [00:49:11]:
They'll be like, when was America great? They they don't know what to say. I'm like

Stephanie [00:49:15]:
They got they never have no answer for you.

Victor [00:49:17]:
They ain't exactly what they meant, sir.

Stephanie [00:49:19]:
Like, really? When when? When was that?

Victor [00:49:21]:
When was America great? Oh, I gotta go, girl.

Stephanie [00:49:23]:
I gotta go get my drink. Oh, yeah. You sure do. Go ahead and go pick up your Oh, god.

Victor [00:49:27]:
This is a dodgeball.

Stephanie [00:49:28]:
They just called your name Shirley. They just called your name Pat. I heard them.

Ashwin [00:49:33]:
Go on. Go get your drink.

Ashwin [00:49:35]:
Also, this election, we saw something very weird, which is young women becoming right wing as well. It doesn't happen that often. Becoming what? Becoming becoming Young women becoming, more right wing. Gen z women are more right wing than millennial women.

Stephanie [00:49:55]:
Because they're becoming emboldened because of the dudes that they whose penises they sit on, like, at least 3 times a week. They're getting more emboldened to say because they got the TikTok, so they're gonna sit there and hear like, baby, Steve is not calling you because let's be very clear. That one podcasting white woman who literally would say, like, basically, she when I tell people, all misogynists do not identify as male. They don't. So you will find nonmale people who are misogynist. She is one of them, and they're just like, girl, she is ugly. I don't want her. Like, girl, you doing all this all this performance for people who don't want you either.

Stephanie [00:50:35]:
Stupid.

Raphael Harry [00:50:37]:
It's a sad day when they find out. Ugly. Right. You do all that performance, and then they still dump you, and then you there there's gonna be a day when they're gonna run coming out. It's come I think it's coming soon. We're gonna see them, and they'll be like, you know, I I I I I voted for him. I didn't realize it was this and, you know, you know what?

Stephanie [00:50:56]:
I didn't know. I didn't know. Like, y'all going y'all after rounding found out and when y'all have this woman marching in January, you don't see no black woman Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:51:03]:
Yet don't keep the press.

Stephanie [00:51:05]:
I I

Raphael Harry [00:51:05]:
ain't much. She's like,

Stephanie [00:51:05]:
oh, we we told you. I'm sorry. I'm sick. I'm like, oh, that's oh, I'm sick that day. It's in January. I know what day it is. I know when it's happened. I'll be sick with you.

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Raphael Harry [00:52:00]:
One language that I never liked was, the folks who were the noncommitted who said they were gonna vote noncommitted. I always wondered why they always kept using the language punish. We wanted to punish VP Harris. I'm like, you wanna punish

Stephanie [00:52:18]:
Punish.

Raphael Harry [00:52:18]:
The black woman. Okay. We're not we're gonna punish VP Harris, but I was like, you know, there's another candidate who is a much bigger threat to you, but you were never you were never trying to punish him. And now that we have the results that we have, I saw the the main guy from noncommitted campaign or whatever they call themselves. Even though they were voting for Jill Stein, I thought they will go be appealing to Jill Stein. He's like, oh, Joe Biden needs to do a lot to protect Palestinian people before he leaves office. I'm like, the guy's priorities have changed. You you gave Trump a mandate.

Raphael Harry [00:52:56]:
You know you did. You gave him a mandate with your actions. It's like people don't realize that. I don't understand how these people calculate politics, how they do their thing. Mhmm. But you did give him a mandate, and he has seen it. He's like, yeah. They're they're on my side now.

Raphael Harry [00:53:13]:
They you turned down a black woman. You said you wanted to punish her. You so you've punished her. Right? You keep using that language of punish. You can't they did something similar in 2016 too. They wanna punish Hillary. Okay. Benny Bro.

Stephanie [00:53:25]:
Right. Uh-huh.

Raphael Harry [00:53:26]:
Alright. It's always the women you seem to want to punish. I don't get this punishing thing, this fetish with fetishization with punishing, but alright. Alright. So because

Stephanie [00:53:37]:
they don't want women there.

Raphael Harry [00:53:39]:
Yeah. And that and for me, I I I call it what it is, and I have a friend who I probably lost. You know, he moved to Canada and, just before the elections with his family. And

Stephanie [00:53:50]:
Aw.

Raphael Harry [00:53:50]:
On the day he was moving, you know, I went to say bye to him, and he cost me out for, like, 30 minutes to say I don't care about Palestinian people and all that because I Oh. I was, against politicians who just use free Palestine as cover to not do anything, not do their regular jobs because I'm like, you still have a job. And when you're not doing your job, your constituencies notices, and they they will vote you out. So that's why Jamal Brown lost in his primaries in New York. He is a terrible congressman. Cori Bush too. I've seen some stuff about her. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:54:23]:
People they they just focus on, oh, because he's he said free Palestine. That's why he got voted out. I'm like, what what has he done? Gon't come ask these constituents. What has he done as a congressman? You were fighting, Marjorie Taylor every day in con nobody elected you to go do that. You can't win a shouting match with that woman. Even, Alexandria Ocasio told you, calm down. Calm down. But my boy was like, no.

Raphael Harry [00:54:49]:
You don't like Palestinians. That's why you you you said it was good that Jamal Brown lost. It's a lesson that people should learn. You want to use I said, no. You took everything wrong, but okay. And he joined. He was part of the punish. I think he was part of the punish, Harris.

Raphael Harry [00:55:03]:
I don't know for sure. But now he's been quiet since the election. He's been quiet because now I'm like, you you you know what's coming. Now you all are begging the same man you call genocidal because they were calling Joe Biden a genocide a genocidal person. And the crazy thing is that October 7th happened, and October 8th, Joe Biden gave an interview, and everything he said in that interview was facts on 60 minutes. And these people skipped over that. All they wanted is, like, some magical pill bullets to happen. If October 7 did not happen, Netanyahu wouldn't be in office in Israel.

Raphael Harry [00:55:46]:
Israelis were about to kick him out of office.

Stephanie [00:55:50]:
Oh, really?

Raphael Harry [00:55:51]:
Yeah. There were protests in Israel to kick him out. There was mass massive protest because he's been on some mad corruption thing. So, he was trying to sack supreme court justices illegally, and Israelis didn't like that. So even the army folks from army were all out in protest, everybody. And then October 7th happened and united the whole country into one cause. And people like Joe Biden stopped. I'm like, Joe Biden was like, India's no way they they have a right to defend themselves, but we're all going to try and tell them mitigate this.

Raphael Harry [00:56:26]:
We don't go too crazy because there's no way in the world where something like that happens and you go to the pool, hey. Calm down. No. No. It's not one country. That leader gonna be fired that day. The country gonna come out and will lash out, and Hamas was counting on that to happen. Their leaders are bragging about it.

Raphael Harry [00:56:46]:
They don't matter how many people die. We'll get our cause because they knew they'll win on online. They'll win the, moral war online and that kind of thing. They knew what they were going for. But Mhmm. To many post those people on the noncommitted side seem to be more interested in winning on social media than going to the polls to give a mandate to the next to their next leaders to give a mandate to say, we don't want we don't want Trump in office because he will do far worse. The man moved the, capital to Jerusalem, United States oh, sorry. United States embassy to Jerusalem, which no president had done, republican or democrat.

Raphael Harry [00:57:26]:
He gave a sign to Netanyahu. Netanyahu started campaigning openly for him to win. And you are saying is the person who Trump is running against. That is the problem. Alright. Now why y'all why do your tone change after Trump wins? Why do you all now start singing a different tone? Oh, black will need to come to stand by us. You know, it's black people now. But you said a black woman needs to be punished.

Raphael Harry [00:57:47]:
You were open about punishing a black woman. What message were you sending?

Stephanie [00:57:51]:
With hold my vote from her. I'm not I, quote, unquote, I cannot vote for her. And I was like, I can't do this. I can't do that. And I'm like

Raphael Harry [00:58:00]:
So I I I I I I feel for the Palestinians. Talk. But nobody was talking about the the fighting in Cameroon. Nobody we we postponed it. We pushed back a whole lot of conflicts.

Stephanie [00:58:11]:
Was in African countries too.

Raphael Harry [00:58:13]:
It's like more than 10 going on in Africa right now. And it's like multiple places. Joe Biden's administration had made big efforts to stop the Sudanese, civil war. And October 7th happened, and, you know, same media folks were like, you know, there was no focus on the Middle East. That's why it happened. Let's try to blame Joe Biden again as always. Blame Biden for everything. And our focus turned to, Israel and Palestine, and they left Sudan.

Raphael Harry [00:58:45]:
And now Sudan has only gotten worse, and now it's spreading to other countries, including Egypt that's dealing with Israel, Palestine at the same time. But it's like it's weird that people just leave all that out of the way and say, it's only these people that matter, only this conflict that matter, only this one. And I'm like, people who are causing all that conflicts are using it, are firing you up, and all they just have to say is free Palestine. And people just like, yeah. They're good. I'm like, that's all it takes? That doesn't make you a a a qualified leader. That doesn't make you a good leader just because I say free Palestine. No.

Raphael Harry [00:59:18]:
I still hold you accountable because you have a job to do. And if you're not doing that job, then get out of the way. And once you I said something like that, then somebody gets mad at me, and now he can't talk anymore because okay. But, I mean, you've moved to another country, but you still know what's coming.

Stephanie [00:59:35]:
This this is the this is the issue. Because when it really is for like, yeah, like, it really is free Palestine. Here's the however comma. You want you basically we wanna act like historically Israel and America are not friends. We're not allies. America's a superpower, and they wanna maintain their allies. Israel has always been an ally, unfortunately. So what did you think they were going to do? Not say and I'm like, this is not an excuse.

Stephanie [01:00:08]:
And it's like, one, but some of some folks can't even go knock on their neighbor's door if they hear people fighting. You hear somebody getting beat up and y'all mind y'all business for a neighbor. So think about like this. It's like think about your neighbor that you know is beating on their spouse or beating on their children, and y'all never say nothing. It's like so think about it that way. Israel is beating on their child right now. They are beating on someone right now, and, basically, America's that neighbor across the street who act like they don't hear nothing. And that's unfortunate, and that's horrible.

Stephanie [01:00:45]:
But that's literally what we're looking at right now. They're like, oh, I ain't hear nothing. I didn't hear anything. I mean, sometimes they get a little out of hand over there. You get a little ruckus, but, you know, it's like, they're being wishy washy because they've been ally we've been allies with Israel way too long, and this has been going on way too long. Hence, while a lot of people didn't know before October 6, 2023 that this was truly an issue, and this has been going on for 7 decades. Yeah. That's awesome.

Stephanie [01:01:14]:
That's by design. That's by design.

Raphael Harry [01:01:17]:
That's another thing. And last thing I will say on that is that, you know, I respect people who went out there to protest. That's fine. But at the end of the day, voting is also an act of protest. It's one of the biggest forms of protest. And when you rather go stand in colleges, you shut schools down, and you refuse to utilize the biggest form of protest, It makes me question, what was your goal at the end of the day? What was all this about? Because it's like that Internet war. I gotta win on social media. I get that clout.

Raphael Harry [01:01:58]:
You know, that's more important than achieving real sustainable actual goals. Achieving something that has an actual impact because the whole conflict you have countries like Saudi Arabia, which is also an American ally that, yeah, it is a whole big there's a question there. And if Saudi Arabia says, you know what? Finish the Palestinians. It it it yeah. They don't we don't care. There's something it's it's

Stephanie [01:02:25]:
weird thing.

Raphael Harry [01:02:25]:
Me up.

Stephanie [01:02:26]:
Go quick.

Raphael Harry [01:02:27]:
Saudi Arabia is like Iran cannot cross over here. We don't want Iran here. And at the same time, it's like, when it's convenient, Saudi Arabia is like, okay. We'll speak up on Palestine. There are some weird things that people are not smart enough. We and all of us can tackle it. It's too big to tackle. That's why I'm like, yeah.

Raphael Harry [01:02:47]:
Let the people who it's their job to tackle this tackle this. We have a sane person in the office of Joe Biden, and he has a great team who are like, we don't want you guys commit this atrocity. Please, we are trying to stop you. They're talking to people in the region, and we're like, oh, here. Genocide. Joe Biden is about I'm like, god. Lee, man. Why why why he just jumped straight to he's not the ruler of Israel.

Raphael Harry [01:03:14]:
He's not in our country. He's not. But well, okay. We'll find out.

Ashwin [01:03:20]:
It's it's it's

Stephanie [01:03:21]:
it's Joe Biden's fault? You think that the US is Israel's only ally?

Victor [01:03:27]:
Man, people are dumb. That's that's what I talked about too. It's like, they know Israel got hella allies.

Raphael Harry [01:03:36]:
But now you know? But it's also convenient for, then it's like, okay. Oh, we've been talking about Palestine, and we wake up one day. Oh, Sudan is still there. Yeah. Remember Sudan? And then it was like, oh, we forgot about Eastern Congo. Like, I'm like, okay. But those Oh, I'm not

Ashwin [01:03:53]:
oh, Ukraine. About this.

Stephanie [01:03:55]:
And and I'm like, y'all said y'all can.

Raphael Harry [01:03:58]:
I'm like, if and and I was asking my former friend that, you know, he he tried to say it's about Muslims caring. And I was I said, okay. China says free Palestine. But if you ask China about the Uighurs, where there's actual concentration camps in China locking those guys up. I will what is that about? Are you aren't they Muslims? They don't count. What about, the Rohingyas? That is a genocide that's actually every nobody everybody has just been like, you know what? Do what you wanna do there. It's it's okay. It seems like everybody has China is not saying free to ring jars.

Raphael Harry [01:04:34]:
Why is China is not saying that? But China seems to have seen an opportunity to get a win over Joe Biden. That's all it seemed to because if if there was no win over Joe Biden, China won't come out forcefully and say free Palestine. China's policy is we don't interfere in other people's business, internal business. So Correct. You are now speaking up because all the Africans that you give weapons to, all the African countries China is as is way ahead of America on that, by the way. If you tell China, oh, this this guy is about to kill some people in his ethnic cleansing in his country, China is like, we don't interfere in domestic, another country's domestic policy, in internal affairs. So it's not our policy. And then on this matter, you're like, oh, we we have an opportunity here.

Raphael Harry [01:05:20]:
We're gonna step out and, like, yeah, bro. Now we are speaking, and I was like, it puts you on the opposite side of America, and that's what they saw as a win. That's all it is.

Stephanie [01:05:29]:
That's not that's all they wanted.

Raphael Harry [01:05:31]:
Because Because if you have the Ugas. You're doing the exact same thing with the Ugas back home. And but anyway

Stephanie [01:05:39]:
It's like, how you talk about this? It's like, baby, like, how are y'all talking about this? I'm like, how you sweep around your door before you come over here

Victor [01:05:48]:
I know.

Stephanie [01:05:48]:
To actually say anything. You might want to actually look at this. And, like, for the folks that were holding their vote, like, you do realize if you did vote for her and she won, you realize you could really turn the screws on this woman. Like, she voted you in to get rid of this. It's like, yeah. It's like, I'm not trying to say you should've sold your vote. It's like, baby, we won ceasefire day 1. January 20, 2025, we won ceasefire now.

Stephanie [01:06:14]:
We wanted it, yesterday. Like, you're 7 decades too late. However, comma, y'all coulda turned the screws on her so quick because those voices, 1, Kamala woulda actually paid attention to your voice. Trump, not so much. He's like, hey. Hi. We got you in this Have you

Raphael Harry [01:06:33]:
ever seen them protesting at a Trump rally? Have you ever seen the

Stephanie [01:06:39]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Last time? Kamala and Joe Biden, but y'all not at Trump rallies acting a fool. You don't ever see them doing this. Why not?

Raphael Harry [01:06:50]:
So why why aren't you there?

Stephanie [01:06:51]:
Ain't that what you're saying?

Raphael Harry [01:06:54]:
So I that's the question I always ask. Like, why aren't why didn't you go to the Republican convention and make a statement and say, hey. No. That's not y'all.

Stephanie [01:07:04]:
That day? Were y'all sick? Yeah. Sick that day?

Raphael Harry [01:07:07]:
Like, there was no Mhmm. Oh, no Palestinian got to speak there. Why didn't you why didn't you make that case? But it's like we can only attack one side and get everything. And I'm like, you know, at the same time that you need congress too. It's not just a president. If you want everything that you want, you need a congress. So you should be telling people to vote for the president and to give the president a congress and a senate that can give you this mandate that you want.

Stephanie [01:07:39]:
Right.

Raphael Harry [01:07:39]:
And somehow

Ashwin [01:07:40]:
This is what has happened now.

Raphael Harry [01:07:42]:
Oh, well, they gave they gave that's why I said they gave Trump a mandate. You you the everything that you said you weren't go you weren't going to do for, madam vice president, you did everything for Trump. And then now you're like, Joe Biden, fix it. I'm like, okay.

Stephanie [01:07:56]:
He's like, no. He's like, excuse me. I'm getting ready for retirement. I'm looking at my retirement package. Okay?

Raphael Harry [01:08:02]:
I I tried to help you all. Y'all said I was too old. So okay. I take the Amtrak train back to Delaware. Mhmm. Go take care of my family.

Stephanie [01:08:10]:
Get back to the Amtrak.

Raphael Harry [01:08:11]:
Yeah. You you love the Amtrak train. I respect my man, man. Uncle Joe. He my good friend. Okay. He's my good friend. I love that.

Raphael Harry [01:08:19]:
If if you have white friends and they don't behave like uncle Joe Biden, hey. Get you new white friends because that's that's how my white friends got to behave. Because because

Stephanie [01:08:28]:
I even like VP like, Kamala Harris's VP pick. It was like I knew like, I kinda, like, glad that I didn't really know nothing about him, but I kinda liked him. So it was kinda like she didn't have a like, it wasn't a bad VP pick, and it was kinda like y'all just didn't want y'all just were not gonna vote for her. And now you're like, nope. We're gonna stick it to her. I'm a withhold my vote. And it's like, how is that helpful against the person? Like, she's not bargaining against Marco Rubio. Oh.

Stephanie [01:08:55]:
So we're not doing this today. You're lit he's she's running against the demon who is not prepared, refuses to prepare. They said, I ain't doing no more debates, and y'all literally let this happen. I'm like, in what world, in any presidential, election cycle, have we never seen, like, at least 2 or 3 different debates between the president and the vice president pick? And we did not get any of that leading up to election. And it was like, oh, that's right. Because y'all don't care. I know. Y'all just not letting this black woman, this black South Asian woman come in here and run this country because you know she would.

Raphael Harry [01:09:32]:
That that that begins with Hillary.

Stephanie [01:09:34]:
Hillary was right about everything. He's thinking, you let him do this. It's like boop boop boop boop. And now she looks like a dag on oracle. Hey. Hillary is she said happened happened.

Raphael Harry [01:09:45]:
Every everything she said was right. I mean, she knew she she's the most qualified candidate we've had for president. So I

Stephanie [01:09:52]:
told everybody, like, most black women, when we apply for any job, we're overqualified for the position we're applying for. Kamala Harris was overqualified

Raphael Harry [01:10:00]:
to be president. I mean

Stephanie [01:10:02]:
She overwise. It was like Hillary was qualified. Kamala was overqualified. That did not matter. Y'all like, nope. I don't want no woman running this country.

Raphael Harry [01:10:11]:
Yeah. That that

Stephanie [01:10:11]:
It's like y'all like, I don't remember y'all, like, saying let's withhold this vote from Joe. And it's like, you can say it's about Palestine.

Raphael Harry [01:10:19]:
Uh-uh.

Stephanie [01:10:20]:
You can. But it's like, baby, it's you can get more out of a candidate if they in the office as opposed to if they're not.

Raphael Harry [01:10:28]:
Exactly. And on on my man, Joe Biden, remember, he didn't have to you know, he showed me the power of whiteness because he didn't have to run on a policy. He had to run on fuck Trump. That was it. That's right. When he said when he when he said on the debates when he said on the debates, will you shut up? No. Why? I didn't say it again. Will you shut the hell up? And I said, this man hates Trump more than I hit Trump.

Stephanie [01:11:02]:
Man fight on the camera. I love it. So he

Raphael Harry [01:11:04]:
would have he would have beaten Trump. He would have beaten Trump. He he he he don't come from he he Joe Biden's in life. He's in life, man. And he he lost how many how many kids in Delaware.

Stephanie [01:11:14]:
He was ready.

Raphael Harry [01:11:15]:
He was ready. He would have beaten he would have beaten

Stephanie [01:11:17]:
you

Raphael Harry [01:11:17]:
know, Trump would have been my my my my ankle was being injured. That's why I lost the fight. The Trump already had excuses before that fight even began.

Stephanie [01:11:24]:
You know he did.

Raphael Harry [01:11:25]:
He got excuses. But that moment he said that, I was like, the way the only the only way he defeat Trump is with a white man. That's why I didn't want Joe Biden to step down because that seemed to be the only language that these people understood that put whiteness up there. They'll be like, okay. Yeah. After that, anything can happen. But as far as there's Trump running, that guy is the most unqual on that no. What's the word I'm looking for?

Stephanie [01:11:55]:
He doesn't need the like, he needs the minimum qualification for me

Raphael Harry [01:11:59]:
to run

Stephanie [01:12:00]:
everybody on this call.

Raphael Harry [01:12:02]:
He

Stephanie [01:12:02]:
And I'm not telling you that

Raphael Harry [01:12:03]:
I'm not a regular guy. Profit. His nonprofit was a disaster. Everything he this guy touches is a disaster.

Stephanie [01:12:10]:
That school that's unaccredited. All the people pay for that school. It's like, baby, you got bigger things to worry about. Like, what about these thousands of people who went to your Trump school, and that that basically that degree degree means nothing.

Victor [01:12:22]:
And what have happened to some people that were on the damn Apprentice? Where they at? They haven't done shit. You know? And, also, Trump didn't have 3 bankruptcies. You feel me? So 3. Something ain't right here. So y'all y'all really trust in this man? Come on now.

Raphael Harry [01:12:36]:
Run the most the biggest economy in the world, the most successful economy in the world. They're calling me that That access is doing the the nuclear code. Nuclear code. Girl. Oh, man. You want the momentum?

Stephanie [01:12:49]:
Please leave us alone. Oh, man. It's like, yeah. And don't and please don't ask black people to come in and

Raphael Harry [01:12:54]:
fix it.

Stephanie [01:12:54]:
He's like, oh, are y'all with us? We asked y'all to be with us, and you were fused.

Raphael Harry [01:12:59]:
Go go ask And now you have to

Stephanie [01:13:01]:
come on and fix it.

Raphael Harry [01:13:02]:
Jill Stein.

Stephanie [01:13:03]:
Go ask your buddy.

Raphael Harry [01:13:04]:
Jill Stein is still.

Stephanie [01:13:05]:
They dropped out.

Raphael Harry [01:13:06]:
Jill Stein is available. She Jill

Stephanie [01:13:07]:
Stein can't come back in 4 years.

Raphael Harry [01:13:09]:
She can't she can't fix it. She's available. She she ain't got nothing to do right now. She got she got enough money. Go fix it, Jill Stein. Leave leave yeah. Jill Stein

Stephanie [01:13:17]:
fixed it. Chronically dropped out of the race on election day. Election day.

Raphael Harry [01:13:22]:
She dropped

Stephanie [01:13:22]:
out? Doing early voting and mail in voting, so they already put your name on a ballot.

Raphael Harry [01:13:27]:
Oh, god.

Stephanie [01:13:27]:
She mysteriously it was something weird. Like, don't think she made, like, an official statement, but then all of a sudden, she not she know she knows. She stepped down. It was election day when this came out. I'm like, so all them people who early voted or mailed in voted and put your name on the ballot Yeah. They real like, more than ever, they really did throw away their vote because homegirl said, yeah. I'm out on election day, not a month ago.

Raphael Harry [01:13:50]:
Scam. Not this vote. Scam. Scam. Scam.

Stephanie [01:13:52]:
November 5th. Girls. Girl.

Raphael Harry [01:13:56]:
You know what? I I wouldn't be surprised if she she takes a, if Trump names out on his cabinet. He he gonna he gonna name out too. Of

Stephanie [01:14:06]:
it's the leafing of doom in there, so you might as well add Jill Stein in there. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [01:14:10]:
He gonna black

Stephanie [01:14:10]:
heck not?

Raphael Harry [01:14:11]:
I I I love diversity. I love women. You know? Jill Stein, Come here. Jill Stein is gonna be my what what are you gonna name my fault? Some something that has to do with scam. She gonna be in charge of scams. I'm like, goddamn it. Yeah. Because she she she good.

Raphael Harry [01:14:26]:
She good with the scams because she just appear, and people be like, yeah. I'm voting for Jill Stein. Like, every 4 years, find 1 black guy with a cool feed, show up to be her VP. Nobody remembers her VP. Yeah. Nobody was their names. It's like the the, men in black, stick they used. She used They

Stephanie [01:14:46]:
they got neuralized. They're like, who's this? I'm like, I didn't know about her VP pick until it came out what he said about trans people.

Raphael Harry [01:14:52]:
Oh, yeah.

Stephanie [01:14:52]:
It's the first time I'm like, I did not know who the heck he was. I'm like and if y'all think, like, for, like, for the folks that are in the community, if you think he is acting independent of Joe Spine, I have a vineyard in California to sell you.

Raphael Harry [01:15:07]:
Mhmm. Well, I I do I do have 2 vineyards to to sell in case you're interested.

Stephanie [01:15:12]:
That was Come on. Oh.

Raphael Harry [01:15:13]:
I'll give a military discount, you know, if you have

Victor [01:15:15]:
Come on, California. Bring bring bring

Raphael Harry [01:15:17]:
the money quick quick. Like I said, dollars, gold, pound sterling. California grape. I might need that money to you know? I'm like, you know, just bring them let let me know. Hit me in the back channels. You know? Or hit hit up Ashwin. Hit up Ashwin. He's my middle man.

Stephanie [01:15:33]:
He he got at least 4 of it. He got 4 vineyards. He's like, hey. How he he is the vineyard czar.

Ashwin [01:15:41]:
Okay. He got all the vineyards. Hey. Tell one

Ashwin [01:15:44]:
of the vineyards. I'm Chad of the vineyard.

Raphael Harry [01:15:48]:
Sorry, Victor?

Victor [01:15:50]:
I said, Chad, if you if you, such good with the venues, someone in the venues come sponsor me then.

Stephanie [01:15:59]:
Come on, sponsorship.

Raphael Harry [01:16:01]:
Oh, man. So we can't be all doom and gloom. You know? Mhmm. Going forward, how do you protect your peace, and how do you heal going you know, how do you heal? Yeah.

Victor [01:16:18]:
Well, number 1, you got you gotta have some time for you. You gotta have some time to unplug, put all your devices on do not disturb, and just watch a movie or do something relaxing or go to the spa or go for a workout, or just go for a walk. Do something to unplug and unwind where you're not in taking the the news and all that stuff. Because if you sit up there and watch the news every day, you're going to go crazy. Because I know people down here, when the hurricanes were coming, they were just watching the news nonstop tracking it. Where this hurricane going, bitch? Relax. We know the damn storm coming. Just be prepared and just learn to relax.

Victor [01:17:01]:
So that's how you gotta do that.

Stephanie [01:17:05]:
Yeah. You just have you have to you can't sit and watch it because literally, on election night, I was watching Steven Universe. I'm like, I can't watch this. I'm like, I can't. I'm like, I don't wanna freak out yet, but I'm a watch Steven Universe. I watched the movie. I watched the whole series, and I think I'm like, I think I watched Avatar too. I'm like, I'm sorry.

Stephanie [01:17:25]:
I'm unplugging from a lot of this stuff because, I wrote I had this conversation with my mom, and she had trepidation about, this election because she this made her real more nervous. And I was like, I'm not that nervous because I was more nervous for Hillary because I knew those white Republicans, those men on both sides, by the way, they don't like Hillary. So I was like, I was more I was more nervous in 2016 than I was in 2024, and I should've kept the same energy that I had in 2016. Because it was kinda like you didn't hear too many people speaking out against Kamala, and it could be by design because of when she started her campaign. I feel like it would have went how it went all the other years when Kamala was a candidate for president, and she quickly people worked her out. If everybody looks at 20 20 Democratic nominations, that's the most diverse group of candidates that was jockeying for the democratic group, and we ended up getting a white man. It's like, if y'all look at who was there, it's like, y'all worked out a lot of progressive people. No.

Stephanie [01:18:31]:
I'm not counting, Bernie Sanders. Bernie, you had

Raphael Harry [01:18:33]:
one You don't count.

Stephanie [01:18:34]:
Yeah. Yeah. Is literally like you could literally just be a democrat to get the nomination and get president. It's like, I could say a lot about Bernie. Guess what? Still would have voted for him because I'm like, I'm looking at the forest beyond the trees. Mhmm. One of the where we're voting for somebody that we like is like we, like, we don't have that luxury anymore. We gotta look for the forest beyond the who is like it's

Raphael Harry [01:18:53]:
not even less of

Stephanie [01:18:53]:
2 evils.

Raphael Harry [01:18:53]:
It's like, who

Stephanie [01:18:54]:
literally will cause me less harm? We're not less of teasing now. It's like, who is less harm? And there's no world that it was not Kamala Harris. It's no world. I don't care what y'all say. Hashtag y'all.

Raphael Harry [01:19:13]:
Hashtag y'all.

Stephanie [01:19:14]:
With the hashtag y'all.

Victor [01:19:15]:
Yep. Yes. Hashtag y'all.

Stephanie [01:19:18]:
Because ain't nobody on this call because we're like, force beyond the trees. Who's going to actually hurt me less? And it really is gonna be the person who actually would listen. That's how they get Democrats. That's how we get Democrats. Democrats will actually entertain you. Mhmm. Republicans will be like Marco Rubio. I we will burn that country down to the ground.

Stephanie [01:19:36]:
If they gotta burn that whole country to get Hamas out, so be it. I'm like

Raphael Harry [01:19:41]:
I mean, you say

Stephanie [01:19:41]:
Do y'all hear this?

Raphael Harry [01:19:42]:
You say Do y'all hear this? Did to their boy, Ted Cruz. His name his real name came out when he he tried to run for president. Julie was like, sir. That's when I realized

Stephanie [01:19:53]:
His name is Cruz. I'm like, let's not do this today.

Raphael Harry [01:19:56]:
That's when I realized he had he had the Ted

Victor [01:19:58]:
was his ass.

Ashwin [01:20:00]:
Hell. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [01:20:01]:
That's when I realized that Ted wasn't his real name. That oh, I was like, oh, so Ted wasn't your real name. The real name came out.

Stephanie [01:20:07]:
I was like, girl, his last name was Prue. I could've told you that. It's like we but people it's like people don't really care about that kind of stuff. Mm-mm. They don't care. I'm like, when and everybody's like, Trump did not say this. Yes. He actually did.

Stephanie [01:20:21]:
I could shoot somebody in the middle of Times Square, and I wouldn't lose a vote, and he didn't.

Raphael Harry [01:20:27]:
He's free I mean, he

Stephanie [01:20:28]:
didn't vote for you. Look. Like, this man say you could've grabbed woman by the pussy, and y'all were like, I'm still gonna vote for her because I I mean, I'm a woman, and we just need to be home. It's like, since when was Hillary ever home, and why should she be?

Raphael Harry [01:20:42]:
I mean, he started his he he began his campaign with pure racism. The very first thing out of his mouth was Mexicans are rapists.

Stephanie [01:20:52]:
We gotta get these immigrants out. Like, y'all know how federal budget budgets work. Like, they take in hurricane funds and give it to, immigration. That's literally not how federal budgets work. This is not I gotta move my money from my savings to my checking. That is not how federal that's how your accounts work. That is not how federal budgets work. They got budgets for a whole bunch of stuff, and some of that money sits for years because it's never huge.

Raphael Harry [01:21:17]:
True. Mhmm. Oh.

Stephanie [01:21:20]:
So what are you talking? Like, that's how you, like this is how he lean after poor, and I'm putting uneducated in quotes because you having a bachelor's, master's, anything like that does not make you instinctively smart.

Raphael Harry [01:21:33]:
No.

Stephanie [01:21:33]:
Makes you, like, have a whole bunch of reason. Your book smart, that don't make you smart. But he went over quote, unquote uneducated white people, and y'all believed it. And it was like, where are you getting this from? Oh, I heard the man say it on the television. I'm like, this is the same man who wanted to get rid of the postal service, and is that I'm not gonna use UPS and FedEx and, DHL. I'm like, you do realize in rural areas, they have to do that because the postal service don't go that far to their damn house.

Raphael Harry [01:21:59]:
Mhmm. Mhmm. And that's the same man

Victor [01:22:02]:
I listened to that told y'all to cure COVID with bleach.

Raphael Harry [01:22:06]:
And With bleach.

Victor [01:22:07]:
Doing that. They were actually drinking

Raphael Harry [01:22:09]:
bleach did that and died. Did. People did that and died.

Stephanie [01:22:14]:
On that side.

Victor [01:22:15]:
Yeah. That's not like how stupid can y'all get.

Raphael Harry [01:22:20]:
It's like, oh, we we we are we moved on from that. Like, moved on 1,000,000 people over 1,000,000 people died. If that was Barack Obama, he he will be in The Hague right now. He'll be in then they would have chased him to the moon. Get out.

Victor [01:22:34]:
Somebody to assassinate Obama. Jeez.

Stephanie [01:22:37]:
Hello? If he had called it the China flu, y'all be like, how how could you say that? That white man that y'all just love said that. They say that they say a lot of stuff all the time. It's like first like, the lastly, the last time it was Jimmy, Fallon, you know, mutton up his hair,

Raphael Harry [01:22:54]:
but he's like,

Stephanie [01:22:55]:
oh, okay. He cool. Now it's Joe he and Joe Rogan, everybody love Joe Rogan. I'm like, they are not they're they're not the people to listen to.

Raphael Harry [01:23:01]:
Yeah.

Stephanie [01:23:02]:
You don't speak for me. It's like y'all not the Lorax. Y'all don't speak for the trees.

Raphael Harry [01:23:06]:
No. We also have to, bring up people like John Stewart. Also doing trying to be like, you know, I'm koozie koozie, but I'm not gonna go all the way out to call out the elephant in the room and say, it's about economics. That's why they voted for Trump. I'm like, y'all need to stop this BS because you you you you're supposed to be smart enough to know the reason because you you deep the whole

Stephanie [01:23:30]:
still talking about 911 and p and and and people, like, victims from 911. 2000 and 1. Shut up. Don't do this.

Raphael Harry [01:23:38]:
Look. I've I've I've met him. He knows me, and it's weird that every time he when he gets to racism, whiteness, then that blanket comes over him, and he's like, you know, I just have to be friends with I'm like, okay. You're friends with people who are racist? And alright. Then Mhmm. Even Rachel Maddow defends, was the Fox guy, Tucker Carlson. They they just have this weird thing of okay. Well, that's I mean, this I'm like, alright.

Raphael Harry [01:24:05]:
You you I'll leave it to you. You guys take you take over. Do handle it. We'll leave it to you. By the way, Ashwin

Stephanie [01:24:11]:
won't go.

Raphael Harry [01:24:12]:
How do how do you, yeah, how do you, protect your peace and, yeah, heal? How do you heal?

Ashwin [01:24:19]:
I think it's the thing. 1 is delete Twitter. You know? But similar to delete Twitter, I think it's more about dismantling all these mechanisms of power on through which we are being controlled. So for instance, I think one thing that we need to do is build these, like, networks of resilience that don't depend on the USD. You know?

Stephanie [01:24:40]:
That's the

Ashwin [01:24:40]:
main thing we need to do for each other is being able to transfer value to each other, bypassing traditional systems, which are centralized forms of power. You know? Like, when you

Raphael Harry [01:24:52]:
So you're trying to sell me crypto right now? Because somebody tried to get me crypto yesterday.

Stephanie [01:24:56]:
It's a he said he's like, Bitcoin. What's up?

Raphael Harry [01:24:59]:
Yeah. Yeah. Because

Ashwin [01:25:01]:
I'm like I'm I'm saying we go the complete op I'm saying we stop bringing in as many mediums as possible. Bitcoin is just a different medium. I'm saying we do direct like the native Americans did. Direct, like, a potluck. You know? A potluck is exactly that. It's just community sharing of resources. Bypassing USD, bypassing Twitter. Even I'm saying we should form mechanisms of power that even bypass electoralism itself.

Ashwin [01:25:29]:
Because electoral politics just doesn't seem to be working for the common people. You know? Popular vote, unpopular vote, electoral color, whatever it is there for. And then even if even like, if the democrats win the presidency, they'll somehow eff it up in the congress and senate and local level. And even if they have all three houses of power, unlike the republicans, I think the Democrats, they won't do they won't take take the risk. You know? So I think it's up to us. It's all up to us at the end of the day, and I think the first thing to do is dismantle like, Twitter only has power because we give it power. True. And the same goes for, I think, electoral politics and the USD.

Ashwin [01:26:12]:
I think we are we should not rely on it too much to transfer value to each other. I think we should just directly transfer value to each other without any mediums.

Stephanie [01:26:22]:
Mhmm.

Ashwin [01:26:23]:
I think it's the mediums. It's the reliance on these mediums that really trap us, put us into bubbles, and blah blah blah. You know?

Raphael Harry [01:26:31]:
Yeah. But how do we transfer the power through mediums when you got a Jill Stein around who gonna show up and say, I hear you. I speak for you, but you gotta give me money to my campaign. And we're gonna take the power for the people. I'm like, girl, if you don't, you know

Ashwin [01:26:51]:
Anybody who's asking for your vote or for your money or something

Raphael Harry [01:26:55]:
She ain't asking for your vote. She asking for your money. That's all she asking for.

Ashwin [01:26:58]:
Whoever is asking you for anything, I think it's more like, I just don't buy it. You know, I just don't think that's the way. The only way is, like, it's direct. It's like what you and I, you know, you you come to my house and you eat when you're hungry. And when I'm hungry, I come to your house to eat. And I think that that is more important. Building those kind of systems of transferring value directly and and and reducing our reliance on these kind of centralized forms of power is the only way, you know. There is it's never going to be true.

Ashwin [01:27:31]:
The answer is never it's like we always think, oh, the the the the way is through the mountain. The real truth is actually we gotta go back and and go wherever we want, but then we are too afraid to do anything. So we just keep fighting in this one direction. We are like, oh, democrat or republican or this or that in one direction. The reality the answer is not in that

Raphael Harry [01:27:52]:
direction. Mhmm.

Ashwin [01:27:53]:
The answer is somewhere else. And as long as we keep doing this digging in one direction, we forget that there are other possibilities, other options, and stuff like that. And we we we are kept trapped in this. Like, we like, the problem like, I think we are being driven towards apathy. Yeah. But what we realize is that the apathy is not towards the possibility of changes that these current systems don't work. So we need to reduce our reliance on systems that do not work and stop trying to prop up this this it's it's like a zombie. We are trying to keep alive this American dream, which is not real.

Ashwin [01:28:37]:
You know?

Stephanie [01:28:37]:
It's because the system was never designed for anybody except for white people.

Victor [01:28:41]:
Pretty big.

Stephanie [01:28:41]:
So that's why we're sitting here, like Exactly. Like this because it's like I agree. The the system don't work. It's like the bad part about it is it kinda is working because it wasn't designed with us. Like, I've said. It's not

Ashwin [01:28:53]:
designed with

Raphael Harry [01:28:54]:
any of us in my system.

Ashwin [01:28:55]:
Just be nuts. Bleach. Bleach. Gum and

Victor [01:28:57]:
the system is like bleach. It only works on whites. They'll fuck up the Come on.

Stephanie [01:29:02]:
Come on.

Ashwin [01:29:02]:
Come on, Vicky.

Stephanie [01:29:02]:
You better eat. It's like like bleach. It only works so white.

Ashwin [01:29:11]:
Oh my god.

Raphael Harry [01:29:12]:
Okay. I might I might I might think that the title. It's like bleach.

Ashwin [01:29:16]:
Yes. It's like bleach.

Stephanie [01:29:18]:
She's like,

Raphael Harry [01:29:19]:
Yeah. Oh, man. That was good. That was good. But now you have an insight into why Ashwin is my master of chaos. Although he didn't mention the name I was expecting him to mention, but he he didn't go to Uh-oh. Arch. He didn't go to his arch nemesis.

Raphael Harry [01:29:33]:
He mentioned my arch

Ashwin [01:29:34]:
nemesis platform. That's it's it's but you're right.

Ashwin [01:29:36]:
My arch nemesis is you're exactly right. Everyone would think it's Elon Musk.

Raphael Harry [01:29:41]:
Elon Musk is what?

Ashwin [01:29:42]:
Not. It's really not. Elon Musk is the clown.

Raphael Harry [01:29:45]:
Yeah. He's the clown. Okay.

Ashwin [01:29:46]:
He's a clown. He's the clown with a

Ashwin [01:29:47]:
whole bunch of

Ashwin [01:29:48]:
that we can all see. The real scary one is Jeff Bezos.

Stephanie [01:29:53]:
Oh my

Raphael Harry [01:29:53]:
god. Ashwin hasn't mentioned Jeff Bezos

Stephanie [01:29:56]:
god. Yes.

Raphael Harry [01:29:56]:
If Ashwin hasn't mentioned Jeff Bezos,

Ashwin [01:29:59]:
he he talks I'm sorry.

Stephanie [01:30:01]:
Yeah. Because he really didn't think I'm like, Elon Musk is also an illegal immigrant. You you came here illegal. Bezos is a

Raphael Harry [01:30:07]:
Bezos is an immigrant. He's called the

Victor [01:30:09]:
kettle blade, basically.

Raphael Harry [01:30:10]:
Bezos is an immigrant?

Stephanie [01:30:14]:
He I think it's him. Was it him or his brother who came here illegally? He he

Raphael Harry [01:30:18]:
I didn't

Ashwin [01:30:19]:
know that. He

Ashwin [01:30:21]:
he he he worked illegally on a on a student visa. That's illegal. I already deported for that.

Ashwin [01:30:27]:
Now when

Raphael Harry [01:30:27]:
I didn't get now when I look like a billionaire.

Ashwin [01:30:31]:
Yeah. Yeah. He do he do look

Victor [01:30:33]:
like he could be Lex Luger.

Raphael Harry [01:30:35]:
Yep. Oh, okay.

Stephanie [01:30:36]:
Because I

Ashwin [01:30:36]:
was like, who?

Stephanie [01:30:37]:
I'm like, no.

Ashwin [01:30:38]:
If a billionaire is supporting a particular political power, that means that guy is not really that powerful. If a billionaire doesn't care who's president, that's a scary billionaire.

Stephanie [01:30:50]:
Right. He's like, oh, I I'm like, oh,

Ashwin [01:30:52]:
I'm getting married. Yeah.

Stephanie [01:30:53]:
They're like, it don't really affect me. I'm like, I get that you're a billionaire, but, oh, baby, you just want that you want that tax break. It's like, yeah. It's 2024. And do you know, like, some of the Reaganomics? Reaganomics. How old was like, how old long ago was Reagan president? And it's still, like, Reaganomics era stuff still actually in effect. So when people say, oh my, he's only in there 4 years. I'm like, y'all have never heard of Reaganomics, have you? Never heard of it, have you?

Raphael Harry [01:31:24]:
4 the damage done in 4 years takes over 15 years to rectify. That's,

Stephanie [01:31:30]:
We we have

Raphael Harry [01:31:30]:
a red president who said that who said that.

Stephanie [01:31:33]:
Court Mhmm. And a red president. Oh, it's gonna be

Ashwin [01:31:35]:
And the senate. While. And the senate.

Raphael Harry [01:31:38]:
Right. It's

Stephanie [01:31:38]:
a big red

Ashwin [01:31:40]:
And the court. And the federal government. Could.

Raphael Harry [01:31:43]:
His first tenure, he had people from his own party who were like, we we ain't gonna just, you know, go with him. But now you have everybody literally saying, yes. Hail the king. They all saying hail

Ashwin [01:31:55]:
the king.

Ashwin [01:31:55]:
Man. Man. One man,

Ashwin [01:31:57]:
one pound. Yep. It's all hail to King. Got yeah. Mhmm. That was the test that they did. They threw round the scientist to see, like, oh, what can happen, and they found out.

Raphael Harry [01:32:07]:
Mhmm. Nope. Right. Yeah.

Stephanie [01:32:08]:
And that's what I'm calling so many people because they're like, I just couldn't do it. I'm like, so, we're not saying if you did lie down. You, hey. Hi. Lazarus, get resurrected because this shouldn't have happened. Mhmm. Period. It's like One

Raphael Harry [01:32:23]:
one thing I'll I'll tell I'll say to the audience about protecting your peace, Do not be like a Nikki Haley, whatever you do. That woman is still waiting for a phone call from Trump for some weird reason. Yeah. You're a big dummy.

Stephanie [01:32:38]:
He still is not not he's still not picking you. He don't he don't

Raphael Harry [01:32:42]:
he don't he don't have any respect for you. He he you are, like but, yeah, whatever you

Ashwin [01:32:47]:
do He

Ashwin [01:32:47]:
was he

Victor [01:32:48]:
was using you, basically. Usually, you go ahead and take that ill because he was basically using you.

Raphael Harry [01:32:54]:
There were people in the Republican party that were mad at her for not endorsing madam vice president. I was telling her, like, go. Attack him all the way, and she's like, you know, I I gonna be with. I'm I'm expecting Donald Trump to call me. I said, okay. Good for you. You're you're gonna find out. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [01:33:15]:
He gonna if he ever calls you, he gonna call you and say, I never knew she was Indian until, you know, today.

Stephanie [01:33:21]:
Call you as for somebody's number.

Raphael Harry [01:33:22]:
Then you go and go like, what? Then she go She's gonna

Stephanie [01:33:26]:
call Nigga and say, hey. You got so and so's number. I've been trying to reach you.

Raphael Harry [01:33:30]:
Exactly. That's what we run an errand for me. I I need you to go

Ashwin [01:33:33]:
Also, I say get get all these Indians out of American politics. Too many of them.

Stephanie [01:33:40]:
Vivek is still a

Ashwin [01:33:41]:
rabbi. Seriously, we

Raphael Harry [01:33:43]:
can get him out

Ashwin [01:33:44]:
of here. Got Usha Vance.

Raphael Harry [01:33:46]:
Vivek and, Tulsi. Oh, lord.

Ashwin [01:33:49]:
Tulsi? I forgot to. Tulsi is

Raphael Harry [01:33:51]:
She's about to be director of, what?

Stephanie [01:33:53]:
Gates for attorney general. I know you lying right now.

Ashwin [01:33:57]:
It's Hindu, but not Indian. But, yeah, that that she counts to

Raphael Harry [01:34:01]:
She counts. She counts. Yeah. She does count. You know? Whatever you you're the opposite of, you get nominated for that.

Ashwin [01:34:07]:
Be like yeah. We should be like doctors and work in the Silicon Valley. What are we doing?

Stephanie [01:34:13]:
I don't know.

Ashwin [01:34:13]:
I am saying from as a racist, I say get Indians out of US politics.

Stephanie [01:34:18]:
Right. And it's like, y'all

Ashwin [01:34:20]:
get a lot of politics. What do

Ashwin [01:34:22]:
they do

Ashwin [01:34:22]:
here? Embarrassing. It's so embarrassing.

Stephanie [01:34:25]:
The demo. It's It's like another demo that's like, hey. Hi. This is y'all win too. It's not just black Exactly. Just say black win. It's a South Asian win, babe. We were like, come we're like, come on over here with us.

Ashwin [01:34:36]:
It's all South Indians, by the way. Have you noticed? It's all South Indians in American politics. Where are all the North Indians?

Ashwin [01:34:44]:
Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Victor [01:34:45]:
I mean, do that.

Raphael Harry [01:34:45]:
Oh, if you if you wanna get into that, Ashu Ashu can break it down.

Ashwin [01:34:50]:
Tamil people. You know that? Did you know that both Kamala Harris and, Vivek Ramaswami are kind of the same cast?

Raphael Harry [01:34:59]:
Oh, I didn't know they were the same cast, but, I had even different flavor. Wife isn't the same cast.

Ashwin [01:35:06]:
Right. She's still a girl.

Raphael Harry [01:35:07]:
Yeah. Okay.

Ashwin [01:35:08]:
She's still a girl.

Raphael Harry [01:35:08]:
Alright. Similar. We we gotta start wrapping up. Otherwise, we would have you opened a new universe. Right? They would have I I got to explore that. We gotta explore that. So, yeah, maybe we'll do a part 2 and explore this. Because because

Stephanie [01:35:21]:
I I Ashwin, thank you for telling me that because I had no idea. I'm like, wait a minute. I should have known better because, yeah, there's always more under the umbrella. Oh, yeah. I'm just like, okay. Salvation. I'm like, oh, baby. There's more under here.

Ashwin [01:35:34]:
Yes. Yes.

Stephanie [01:35:35]:
It's like, oh, that was That's

Raphael Harry [01:35:36]:
why if

Stephanie [01:35:36]:
if you

Raphael Harry [01:35:36]:
listen to Ashwin's first episode and you're listening to his mom's episode where I got on the I got a little I got a little smack on it from his mama.

Ashwin [01:35:45]:
I'm like,

Stephanie [01:35:46]:
that still cracks me up a lot.

Ashwin [01:35:47]:
She was so mad. On the video, you can see her get really mad at the way she looked at you. I was like, oh my goodness.

Raphael Harry [01:35:56]:
I love your mom, man. She's awesome. She's awesome. She like people.

Ashwin [01:35:59]:
She was like announce her.

Stephanie [01:36:00]:
I she's like, I will beat you. Cut me a switch. She was like, as you cut her

Raphael Harry [01:36:04]:
a switch so she can beat you.

Victor [01:36:05]:
Damn. Not bad.

Ashwin [01:36:07]:
She made him repeat it until he got it right. And I was like, mom, let it go. He's close enough. She's like, no.

Stephanie [01:36:15]:
She's like, no. No.

Raphael Harry [01:36:16]:
She she she my mama.

Stephanie [01:36:18]:
Say nothing.

Raphael Harry [01:36:18]:
She my mama.

Stephanie [01:36:19]:
She's like, if I don't stop, he gonna keep doing this.

Ashwin [01:36:22]:
And I gotta

Stephanie [01:36:23]:
make sure he do not mess this up again. I was

Ashwin [01:36:25]:
like, mom, this is not good content. She's like, it's not about that.

Stephanie [01:36:28]:
2 years ago about that.

Ashwin [01:36:29]:
I'm like, this is not good content for the pod.

Ashwin [01:36:32]:
Yeah. Yeah. You came look

Stephanie [01:36:33]:
like mom was not going to be content. Right.

Raphael Harry [01:36:36]:
She like, I don't

Stephanie [01:36:37]:
she like, f this content. Okay?

Raphael Harry [01:36:39]:
You're gonna pronounce my city's name. You're gonna get it right. You'll put respect to my city's name.

Stephanie [01:36:47]:
Okay. I was like, will she gonna get you? She's just

Ashwin [01:36:50]:
a political extremist. I I I all every day, I pray that, you know, I thank God that she doesn't have social media or else she'd be in jail by the way.

Raphael Harry [01:36:57]:
Oh, yes. Yes. She fired. She is fired.

Stephanie [01:37:00]:
Like, she get a she on Blue Sky. She don't like this place of No.

Raphael Harry [01:37:04]:
She insane. She is. If you think Ashwin is the master of chaos, you beat his mama. You're gonna be like, goddamn.

Ashwin [01:37:12]:
That's what he's telling her and like, she's extremist. I'm like,

Raphael Harry [01:37:16]:
oh, shoot. She must be because

Ashwin [01:37:17]:
he's there.

Ashwin [01:37:20]:
She is an ex political extremist. Like,

Raphael Harry [01:37:23]:
if if it

Ashwin [01:37:23]:
was up to her, yeah,

Stephanie [01:37:24]:
that would be Yeah. Bring her back. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [01:37:26]:
Bring her back. Yeah. Bring her back.

Stephanie [01:37:29]:
Yeah. I'm a not say the word because I don't want you beating me.

Ashwin [01:37:32]:
I agree, but it's all moms. I think mom something about becoming a mom makes you a political extremist somehow. It kinda makes sense, actually, because you're like

Victor [01:37:41]:
kinda running her mouth after because I remember telling her the day after the election. She was like, we just had to put this convicted felon back in office and stuff.

Ashwin [01:37:50]:
Woah. Rafael, remember what Josh's mom said? I am not gonna repeat it on the pod, but, well, yeah, that was and that was 2 days before the Trump assassination attempt. And I was like, woah. What does she know?

Raphael Harry [01:38:05]:
Oh, man.

Ashwin [01:38:06]:
I'm like, this lady, man.

Stephanie [01:38:07]:
I'm and I'm putting that on quotes because I really do think that I'm I'm so sorry.

Raphael Harry [01:38:11]:
I'm a be it. I I ain't I ain't trying to get to the yeah. I'm

Victor [01:38:14]:
like I'm I'm already

Raphael Harry [01:38:15]:
I'm already

Stephanie [01:38:16]:
a Trump

Raphael Harry [01:38:16]:
Trump guy. I ain't trying to get Trump to come after me. But, anyway, let's, let's get to the final question.

Stephanie [01:38:22]:
What I was gonna say. Well, I

Raphael Harry [01:38:23]:
mean, he's still gonna come after

Stephanie [01:38:24]:
me. He

Raphael Harry [01:38:24]:
did it. But,

Stephanie [01:38:25]:
I thought it was I thought it was staged. I'm like Mhmm. I'm a I'm a fucked Trump

Raphael Harry [01:38:30]:
guy. I'm a fucked Trump guy, but I don't believe he's staged. Trump's not that intelligent to stage something like that. He's not. He's the I can't give him that credit. He's not that intelligent. But if Elon arranged it for him, that's fine. I don't know.

Raphael Harry [01:38:43]:
I'm not gonna allegedly, but, they're too dumb, to be honest. They're too dumb on that side. That's the that's the saddest thing about their scam. Because it's always scam they're selling at the end of the day. They're still selling Bibles.

Victor [01:38:55]:
And then, also, it's something it goes back to something Trump said back in the Time Magazine article in 1999. He said it he said if he ever ran for president, he'd run as a Republican because the Republicans the Republican voters are dumb. He said it, like, almost 30

Raphael Harry [01:39:11]:
years ago. He he called them out, and they're still, Yeah. They're still he's our guy. I mean Mhmm.

Stephanie [01:39:16]:
I

Raphael Harry [01:39:16]:
mean, he gave them the judges they need. But, anyway, final question. What would you like to leave the audience with? It's your freestyle moment. We'll try and keep it to one minute, please. Who would like to go first?

Stephanie [01:39:33]:
I'll go first because of, like, oop. You gave me 60 seconds. So let me just say this. Let me tell y'all something. Lose black women's numbers. Do not call us. Do not comment on us to call and fix nothing. What do y'all think? I'm like, we've been telling you for a while how we think, and y'all ain't wanna listen to us, and now you want us to come basically clean up your mess.

Stephanie [01:39:51]:
We're not doing that. Use black men's numbers too because y'all use that 20% to say they spoke literally a clear 80 20 rule. You use that 20 to say this is how black men feel. I'm like, yeah, they really don't, but this is what happens. Y'all highlighted the 20 and ignored the 80. Yeah. Do not ask us to come fix shit. Stay like, no.

Stephanie [01:40:13]:
Nope. You got what you wanted, and you wish you had what you you're gonna regret all this. I don't care about your regrets. Your regrets does not help anybody that I care about who is under my umbrella of blackness and or in in a press group where you literally operated against them, and now you're like, please don't hate me. You voted because you voted that way because you hate me. So guess what? Eat like, sit at that table and eat your food. It's cold. You still got it.

Stephanie [01:40:42]:
You are not getting up from this table until you finish your plate. Leave us alone now. Mhmm.

Victor [01:40:50]:
Listen. In the spirit, look at the look at the count, ladies and gentlemen. In the spirit of the calendar was coming up, I just got this said, be thankful. Be thankful for your family. Be thankful for your friends. Be thankful for the fellow content creators, you know, and stuff. Just be thankful that we're making it to another Thanksgiving. And, please, don't be posting y'all nasty food on the goddamn thing.

Victor [01:41:14]:
We all eating the same thing.

Stephanie [01:41:16]:
Do not post that dry macaroni and cheese. On Wednesday.

Victor [01:41:20]:
Because we will be clowning your ass if they don't if they look nasty. Happy Thanksgiving, and thank you, white label American for the half million platform.

Raphael Harry [01:41:30]:
Hey, man.

Ashwin [01:41:31]:
I'll add one thing. I'll add one thing. Okay. So this is, like, to relate to this topic of the gender politics. You know? I think, millennial men, we are now becoming the ones in power.

Ashwin [01:41:45]:
Mhmm.

Ashwin [01:41:45]:
We we were confident enough to tell our dads and uncles fuck off. That we will not be misogynists like you. And now we are in positions of power. I say we use that power and say the same thing to the Gen z and Gen Alpha, like our nephews and kids who are becoming a more right wing. We say, you know what? You want patriarchy? Here it is. Here is what the real patriarchy looks like. So for instance, in my class, misogyny is just directly it's just directly affects their grades. You know? Your misogyny, therefore, you're dumb, and therefore, you get low grades.

Ashwin [01:42:21]:
It's direct consequences. You know? So if you come up to my classroom and you present and whatever you call women, females or whatever, I'm like, you're grammatically incorrect. Therefore, you are you know, you f on this assignment. Consequences. Did not go. Consequences. And I say we have power. They want patriarchy.

Ashwin [01:42:42]:
We show them what patriarchy is, and we give them exactly the patriarchy they want.

Raphael Harry [01:42:47]:
I like that. You know what? I'm gonna use that right now.

Stephanie [01:42:49]:
Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [01:42:49]:
I'm using my patriarchy. So if you're listening and you're like, well, Ralph, I wanna, you know, I I wanna reach out to you as a black friend of mine. Well, reach out to my PayPal. Yes. Reach out to my Yes. Cash App. Reach out to my Mhmm. Patreon.

Raphael Harry [01:43:06]:
And when my team sees that, we'll get back to you. Alright? Okay. There's no team. It's me, but the the the team will reach out to you.

Ashwin [01:43:14]:
The men are benefiting severely from what we had to go through, and I don't like it. I don't like them taking this and going forward with this bullshit.

Raphael Harry [01:43:23]:
It for granted.

Ashwin [01:43:24]:
Taking it for granted. We snatch

Raphael Harry [01:43:26]:
it back. We snatch it back. Yep. About time.

Ashwin [01:43:29]:
Yeah.

Raphael Harry [01:43:29]:
Alright. So please, let the people know where they can find you, and thank you to each and every one of you for joining us today. Yeah. Where can people get in touch with you and enjoy your content?

Stephanie [01:43:42]:
Okay. Who wants to go first?

Ashwin [01:43:44]:
I'll go first. The answer is nowhere. Okay? I'm done. Thank you very much. I'll I'll leave.

Victor [01:43:52]:
My dad was

Stephanie [01:43:52]:
I think

Ashwin [01:43:53]:
I'm leaving. I'll be like, If

Raphael Harry [01:43:56]:
you need to find if you need to find Ashwin, come to me. I'll yeah. I'll I'll take care of it.

Ashwin [01:43:59]:
He knows only Rafael knows where I live here. Yeah.

Stephanie [01:44:03]:
I am screaming. Yeah. You know what? Nobody. You can't find

Ashwin [01:44:05]:
me nowhere. Not find me anywhere, and I I choose to keep it that way. I have no socials, and my I have, like, 3 layers of security on my laptop.

Raphael Harry [01:44:16]:
But, technically, you do have a social, but

Ashwin [01:44:18]:
I have no ads. I have no ads.

Raphael Harry [01:44:21]:
If you if you send me if you, you know, send it for a token fee of $50, I'll I would give you Ashwin's. I'll show you proof that I have a social.

Ashwin [01:44:31]:
No. I have a phone number that you could reach me and and a email as well.

Raphael Harry [01:44:35]:
It's not that. Do you have a social? I'm I'm not gonna say only. I'm not gonna give it out for free. It's the holiday. It's the season of giving. So I'm I wanna be giving stuff too. Give me give me give me the She's like,

Stephanie [01:44:45]:
don't give them nothing. Okay.

Ashwin [01:44:47]:
Yeah. Other even my phone numb I don't even read my texts anymore.

Ashwin [01:44:52]:
Oh my god.

Ashwin [01:44:53]:
I don't read. I have people reaching out to me. I'm like, whatever. I'm like, if you don't know where I live, then therefore, you shouldn't be able to reach out.

Raphael Harry [01:45:01]:
You sent a pigeon or a raven?

Ashwin [01:45:03]:
Yeah. If you

Raphael Harry [01:45:03]:
wanna get in touch.

Ashwin [01:45:04]:
That's why I'm He

Stephanie [01:45:05]:
got a tube system in his hand.

Ashwin [01:45:07]:
I got a hamster that he's using.

Victor [01:45:11]:
They don't know.

Raphael Harry [01:45:13]:
Yeah. Victor, you go next.

Ashwin [01:45:15]:
I I meet the I meet the information guy on Saturdays at the farmer's market. He gives me the lowdown. Organic locally

Stephanie [01:45:22]:
sourced. Lowdown?

Victor [01:45:24]:
Yeah. Okay. He got the lowdown. Okay. Okay. Okay. I see you. Alright, ladies and gentlemen.

Victor [01:45:30]:
You can contact me, at Liquor Talk Podcast on Instagram, Twitter, and, threads is Ruby Jones. If you wanna get on liquor talk, just go ahead and highlight me. If you wanna subscribe to liquor talk, it's liquor talk podcast everywhere. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Iheartradio, all of that. If you're interested in being a guest, just email me at liquatalkpodcast@gmail.com. Y'all tap in with the Liquatalk, get the liquor ready, and we'll pull it up. We're taking off for the 24 and the 25, and, hell, 26th as well. Fuck down today.

Ashwin [01:46:06]:
That's what's up.

Stephanie [01:46:07]:
Hey. I'm excited. Well, you could oh, now see why didn't I go first so I had to follow Victor. I'll tell you what. But you can find, the mocha I'm Stephanie. I'm the host of Mocha Mooka Minutes podcast. You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. I'm actually gonna be also converting to Blue Sky by Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.

Stephanie [01:46:27]:
Handle is Mocha Minutes, on all 3. If you would like to be a guest, mokka minutes atgmail.com. I am on all the social media, unfortunately, but you can find me there. But you can find the Mokka Minutes podcast wherever you catch podcasts. I think they have finally put down SoundCloud because but that was only for rappers and DJs anyway. Mhmm. But any other place where you find your podcast, you can find the Mokka Minutes podcast. Would love to listen, love to follow.

Stephanie [01:46:54]:
Also, if you like to buy me a coffee, buy me a coffee.com backslash Mokka Minutes. Thank you.

Raphael Harry [01:46:59]:
Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. So oh, then. Because sometime in my mind, I just blanked away. But, it was something Victor said that I was like, oh, yeah. I could use that too. And then, oh, yeah.

Raphael Harry [01:47:12]:
I remember now. You can follow me on Blue Sky now. White label American is on Blue Sky. So

Stephanie [01:47:17]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [01:47:18]:
Come along. We've been getting some good follow ups there. I'm a

Victor [01:47:21]:
guess I'm about to make a Blue Sky account now.

Raphael Harry [01:47:23]:
Yeah. Yeah. Make a Blue

Stephanie [01:47:24]:
Sky account.

Raphael Harry [01:47:25]:
Please do. And, yeah, it's nice out there. There's no it's not wild. But, I mean, I've seen some wild stuff already, but it's not wild. That's, like, you know so yep. It's early Twitter.

Stephanie [01:47:34]:
It probably is. It's early Twitter.

Ashwin [01:47:36]:
Well, you

Stephanie [01:47:37]:
have Early Twitter was not what it is now.

Ashwin [01:47:39]:
Mokka Minutes has 260 4 episodes.

Raphael Harry [01:47:43]:
Yay. Awesome. That is She's putting out work.

Ashwin [01:47:47]:
That is, you know, that is art. That

Stephanie [01:47:48]:
is Wait. Wait.

Raphael Harry [01:47:48]:
Actually, hold on. Let the episode end, and then we'll continue in the background. Alright, people. If you want more, join on Patreon, and yeah, you get bonus content on Patreon. Alright. Thanks for the privilege of your company. See you at the next episode. I can't tell you what the next episode will be right now, but it's an awesome episode.

Raphael Harry [01:48:06]:
So thank you, Mbana, Dankashon, Asante sanna. Ashwin, what's your thank you again? I always forget. Thank you. Nandri. Nandri. See, I remember that. Nandri. Alright.

Raphael Harry [01:48:16]:
Oh. Alright. Enjoy your holiday season.

Ashwin [01:48:20]:
Bye, everyone.

Raphael Harry [01:48:23]:
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