Ep 189 : Life Lessons and Laughs, White Label American's 6th Anniversary Celebration with Ashwin

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:00:00]:
I would call it it would be called kick start. Kick start? Kick start, and it'll smell like petrol and burnt rubber. You know? Like a leather. Like like a like a motorcycle like a motorcycle seat that's polished, and you just finished riding it. So it smells like burnt brake dust, a little bit of gasoline, some nice polished leather. I wanna smell like that. The best way to smell it. It smells like I just got here in a hurry, baby, for you.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:00:36]:
You know?

Raphael Harry [00:00:50]:
Hey everybody, Rafael Harry here. You are listening to White Label American. On this show, we dive into unique and diverse origin stories from immigrants and allies. Join us weekly as we break barriers, connect the past with the present, and peek into the future. Welcome to the 6th anniversary of white label American podcast. I'm your host, Rafael Harry, and it's a pleasure to bring you this very special episode. If you're new here, welcome. Stay a while.

Raphael Harry [00:01:33]:
Invite your friend, friends, even your enemy. We accept them. You know? As far as you guys won't try to fight while listening, fight afterwards. There's always room for more listeners. We love to hear from you. So stay tuned for how to get in touch. Your support means the world to us. So in this episode, we'll be having fun.

Raphael Harry [00:01:55]:
And who's the we? It's no other than our number 1, you know, acting cohost, Ashwin, you know, master of chaos.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:02:07]:
What's up, everyone?

Raphael Harry [00:02:08]:
So we'll be doing something that we haven't done in a long, long time. I have a deck of cards. They got some questions that I don't know what they say, but we're just gonna have fun. And each person will pull a card out. And Oh,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:02:23]:
we're going we're going back and forth?

Raphael Harry [00:02:24]:
Yeah. We'll go back and forth. Alright. And read what the question says. And

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:02:30]:
I like this. Very generative. Very creative.

Raphael Harry [00:02:33]:
Yeah. So You wanna go first, or you want me to go first? I will let you and Walter pull out a card and see what what he says.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:02:42]:
So Let's do the tarot. Let's pull out, like, 1 or 12 cards. Hey. Lay them upside down. Like like the witches? Uh-huh.

Raphael Harry [00:02:53]:
Before I won't begin, how's your Halloween?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:02:56]:
Halloween? Excellent. Excellent. Candy harvest.

Raphael Harry [00:02:59]:
Oh, good.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:03:00]:
Good. I, took the dad tax. You know? You know the dad you know the dad tax. Right? You're the Reese's peanut butter cups.

Raphael Harry [00:03:07]:
Oh. You

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:03:08]:
gotta you gotta skim them. Right? What else? Well, I'm not planning on strategy, but,

Raphael Harry [00:03:15]:
you know, I mean, the heat kind of changed my game plan. I was gonna be in costume. Oh, no. But my costume, I I didn't think about it. I thought I planned for cold weather. My costume is meant for cold weather. Got it. And It was very warm.

Raphael Harry [00:03:31]:
Oh, yeah. It was too warm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:03:32]:
Very warm. We were Mario. I was Luigi. My wife was Prince of Speech.

Raphael Harry [00:03:37]:
Oh, mhmm. Yeah. That that's you can do that in warm weather.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:03:40]:
Yeah. I was just no he, my son was in, like, a Mario hat. Mhmm. Drawn on mustache. Yeah. And just red polo and overalls, you know. Easy go. And mine was even simpler.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:03:55]:
Green hat, green hoodie, blue jeans. And I just grew an l on the on the green hat. Putting an l on my own forehead.

Raphael Harry [00:04:05]:
Yeah. Nice.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:04:06]:
And princess peach, pink dress. Mhmm. Blue cardboard accessories. Good to go. Yeah. Simple. Keep it simple.

Raphael Harry [00:04:14]:
Yeah. You gotta keep it simple sometimes. Yeah. I was trying to scare kids, man, and it backfired. So I just went to my neighbor's, and he had adult candy. Oh. And I was just getting my adult candy while Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:04:29]:
He was busy sharing.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:04:29]:
What are we talking about?

Raphael Harry [00:04:31]:
I don't care. Well, you know, it's good good stuff to drink. Got it. Got it. But you know the funniest thing that happened? Yeah. There were some teenagers that showed up. Uh-huh. Because I kept asking asking kids to show up.

Raphael Harry [00:04:44]:
What what's your costume? If I couldn't recognize the costume. Why do you wanna find you? I just, you know, strike conversation. And these boys, there were 4 of them, all different all colors and gen you know, all colors. Well, 4 boys. And I was like, yeah. What what costume is this? Because you guys just look like you are dressed plain. Mhmm. And they're like, oh, we we are y n's.

Raphael Harry [00:05:07]:
I said, what? Y n. What else y n? Young nutritionist. I was like, man, I gotta respect your scam. I respect your scam because my my my neighbor who I was with is an older, Chinese dude with his wife who's, she was born in Argentina, has Jewish mom Jewish Italian mom. And he was handing out one candy because he was like, man, there's so many kids coming here today. I gotta start giving out only one candy. I was like, no. These boys, their scam is too good because I I was dying laughing.

Raphael Harry [00:05:40]:
I was like, alright. You guys take extra. This YN. You guys couldn't have bought out a dresser. They call themselves YN. Because I was like, y n. Is that what? Something with nursing? Like, no. No.

Raphael Harry [00:05:51]:
We're young nutritionists. I was like, man, it's this boys. They're scammers. The scam is real.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:05:59]:
That's not what I thought y n's true.

Raphael Harry [00:06:01]:
That's not exactly. Same here. I was like, YN never thought. Oh, all that kids put put in a put an effort into the outfit. Y'all just came out dressed like you're going to regular school day. Mhmm. No. We we have YNs.

Raphael Harry [00:06:18]:
YNs? Yeah. Yeah. He's a YN too. What? 2 of you? Yeah. Yeah. What's that?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:06:23]:
Sounds like a Korean boy band. K pop band. It's like, man, I

Raphael Harry [00:06:26]:
I could even be mad at them. I was like, yeah. Good scam. Good scam. Alright. Respect that. Alright. Alright.

Raphael Harry [00:06:33]:
Get more candies for you. Oh, man. Well yeah. Listen us. Let us know what your how how your Halloween went, if you if you also met fellow scammers like that out there or the kids out around you. Alright. First question. What's the strangest thing you've ever seen in the middle of the road? Middle of the road? Middle of the road.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:06:58]:
Now if I say cow, it's gonna be too racist. Right?

Raphael Harry [00:07:01]:
Cow? Yeah. Nope. Wow. That's racist. No. It's true. Depends on

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:07:07]:
who who who

Raphael Harry [00:07:08]:
receives the message.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:07:12]:
Middle of the road. I gotta say cow. I've seen okay. I have okay. This is going to sound I've

Raphael Harry [00:07:17]:
seen cow.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:07:17]:
I have seen elephant. Elephant in the middle of the road. No.

Raphael Harry [00:07:22]:
I was not seeing I've seen a monkey in the middle of

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:07:24]:
Monkey for sure. Snake for sure.

Raphael Harry [00:07:28]:
I've seen a snake alive. I've seen dead snake. Never seen a tiger. Oh, no. Well, I have not seen something as big as that.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:07:36]:
Never seen a tiger. I have seen lions in the middle of the road. That I've seen. It was in the safari. Okay? No.

Raphael Harry [00:07:44]:
I've never been on the safari.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:07:45]:
But it was in the middle of the road. Ostrich. I I think I'm going only animals. Let me try to think about non animal strangest thing that I've seen in the middle of the road.

Raphael Harry [00:07:59]:
Oh, I got one. Yeah. You you you go first.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:08:02]:
Lot okay. So in Ecuador, there are okay. Okay. Here's the thing. I got I got it. I got the answer. In Ecuador, there is this, tradition around the New Year's. Okay.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:08:14]:
Before the New Year's, when you when you're driving and you you're at a stoplight, these people, these guys dressed up as women come and ask for money. And that's something that they do only in around Halloween. Not Halloween, around New Year's, you know. And they usually dress up as an old woman, but for some reason, like a sexy old woman.

Raphael Harry [00:08:41]:
The sexy old woman.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:08:42]:
Sexy old they dressed up as sexy old women and but it's all guys. It always gets me. It gets me a little, I don't know, confused, I guess, sexually. I guess, the the strangest would be would be that. Oh. Biejas. You know? Biejas.

Raphael Harry [00:08:59]:
That that reminds me of this tradition that's in Nigerian universities. Mhmm. It's dang. I need to I can't remember what it's called. I'm pretty sure if I ask chat GPT, they will have a name for it. It will know the name or online I can find it, but it's either the first within the 1st month of the school year. So I used to be in public schools, and it was like a fundraising thing, but not not like it was like for the students. Got it.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:09:32]:
Yeah. Spirit raising. Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:09:34]:
But male students Mhmm. Mhmm. That's where it it paid off if if you had Yeah. Female friends. Yep. Yep. Yep. And boys Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:09:43]:
This was, you know, before Internet and before, you know, bunch of culture wars and all. The gay agenda didn't didn't seem to exist back then, but it was normal for boys to be in women's makeup

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:09:59]:
Yep.

Raphael Harry [00:09:59]:
Wear wigs

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:00]:
Yep.

Raphael Harry [00:10:01]:
Borrow skirts from girls, like mini skirts Yeah. All that stuff, put on bras

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:06]:
Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:10:06]:
You know, and go out there and To the street. Into the streets Mhmm. And go into businesses. And everybody will laugh because Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:14]:
Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:10:14]:
You knew it was that time of the year for students to come

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:16]:
out Interesting. Very good.

Raphael Harry [00:10:18]:
And do this. So you Yeah. Some will laugh. Man, that guy pulled it off. And they'll give you money, so it's better how good Yeah. If you're able to pull it off.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:27]:
Yes.

Raphael Harry [00:10:27]:
And I think girls did the opposite.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:30]:
Oh, yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:10:31]:
Yeah. We'll That's cute. Try to look manly.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:33]:
That's cute.

Raphael Harry [00:10:33]:
You know? But it was

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:35]:
I find it.

Raphael Harry [00:10:35]:
Kind of

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:35]:
the cosplay thing. Yes. Yes. Definitely. Here too. Here too.

Raphael Harry [00:10:40]:
So I I got I have to ask my nephew now.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:43]:
It is cosplay. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:10:44]:
I have to ask my first nephew if

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:46]:
Oh, it's cosplay.

Raphael Harry [00:10:47]:
Tradition still goes on because now with everybody being open, it's too gay. You know? I don't know.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:10:54]:
I see.

Raphael Harry [00:10:54]:
But that thing has entered. That type of has entered into the Nigerian scene. But back then, it wasn't seen as gay or a man do that. So Of course. Yeah. It's fascinating.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:11:06]:
Yeah. That A lot of indigenous traditions.

Raphael Harry [00:11:09]:
We we we had it was fun. It is. It was a good time.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:11:12]:
Is that the is that the next day? Thing you've seen in the road?

Raphael Harry [00:11:16]:
No. No. I I don't think that that wasn't gonna be my answer. Must have to do with nudity, though. Okay. It was it it was a man. Well, I I will go in the male version. Because there was male there were men who were women who we consider mad.

Raphael Harry [00:11:37]:
We just call them mad men. Mm-mm. But there were people who obviously were suffering from some mental issues. Mhmm. But seeing a man with a hard erection, he then tattered clothes, ripped clothes Yeah. Just standing at the, you know, some when some cities started having traffic light and but the this, yeah, where I was living in, I think it was in Baton. And this guy had a heart erection, and he's begging for money. I was like, oh, man.

Raphael Harry [00:12:07]:
This guy coming towards your car now. He can't you gotta what can I can you guy looks at his bed? Is it green light? Do I how do you know if it's green light? So that's but you gotta look forward, man. You guys are right at your So it was fun being in the car, and, yeah. I mean, if I was with my elder sister, I was, like, 16 years older than me. And blood of Jesus. I was like, is it blood of Jesus because the man is naked? Or is it blood of Jesus because the guy has an erection? I don't know why he always had an erection when he was back. Because he comes to your car with direction. You see, that's even white rolling up there because it was manual windows there.

Raphael Harry [00:12:46]:
So, you know, you gotta manually Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like some people always realize the last second that this guy was at the erection. Wreck. COVID was your car. I don't know if the car's made him erect. I don't know.

Raphael Harry [00:12:57]:
Mhmm. But he just comes and says, oh, I've been it's kinda winding up. Why do

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:13:02]:
you know? Of the feeling of danger.

Raphael Harry [00:13:05]:
It's like somebody's been taking that card. It's like, oh, no. Oh, shit. This guy No. When I'm like, it's not is it gonna stick it in your car? I don't know. But So even at nighttime, it's like, oh, no. I'm not.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:13:27]:
Let's get the next question.

Raphael Harry [00:13:28]:
Oh, man. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:13:29]:
Alright. Alright. Next question. Oh, oh, political question.

Raphael Harry [00:13:34]:
It's a This

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:13:35]:
is for you. What do you feel people complain too much about these days?

Raphael Harry [00:13:41]:
Lee. What

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:13:42]:
do you feel people complain too much about these days? I

Raphael Harry [00:13:45]:
don't get an easy one. What do I feel people complain about too much these days? There's so many ways to answer this one. The gay agenda. Mhmm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:14:01]:
I was about to say that. I was about to say worthless, worthless in general.

Raphael Harry [00:14:08]:
Actually one happened yesterday. Mhmm. I was on, I was on a virtual conference for the company that, Portpage. I use Portpage for my podcast, the websites that does my handles my, podcast, website, and they had a web virtual conference for us and for all the users. And somebody was in the chat saying, you know, I don't wanna be on this other podcast, platforms because they are getting to work. Mhmm. And it just seemed like everybody just stopped typing after that. Like, okay.

Raphael Harry [00:14:46]:
Mhmm. Because at that moment, they were like, yeah. Yo. You should connect. You know, this is a good place for, you know, podcast to meet each other and connect, and it just seemed like, I gotta kill the vibe. Mhmm. They put that in there. You know, I don't like all this wokeness out there.

Raphael Harry [00:14:59]:
I'm like, yeah. Mhmm. What is that is work? Define work. Mhmm. What is your work? And Mhmm. Yeah. And when I start complaining about that, you know, people start Yeah. Walking up away from you.

Raphael Harry [00:15:10]:
Like, yeah. So do I have to use work? Do I use gay agenda? Do

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:15:15]:
I Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:15:15]:
Gay agenda? Same.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:15:17]:
What is what is the gay agenda? I wanna know now. What exactly is it to make everyone gay?

Raphael Harry [00:15:24]:
Hey. The the top water?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:15:26]:
What is oh, yeah. I mean, yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:15:27]:
The the according to RFK Jr, it's, Yeah. The the 5 g towers, cell phones. No.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:15:33]:
But what what do gay people benefit by making everyone else gay? I feel like if I was gay, I would be like, no. I I would be even more like gatekeeping about it.

Raphael Harry [00:15:44]:
Oh, no. I got into the people complain about it. Uh-huh.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:15:50]:
Yeah. I

Raphael Harry [00:15:50]:
don't want straight people being allow. Yeah. Uh-huh. Women won't have babies anymore.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:15:55]:
Straight people into my gay space if I was gay.

Raphael Harry [00:15:58]:
Well I

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:15:59]:
was gay. I did it. I'm not straight.

Raphael Harry [00:16:00]:
People who are complaining. The people who are complaining about it. See, I think it's all of it's that's why we have they're trying that's why they're trying to take away women's rights

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:16:08]:
because Sometimes I wish I was gay.

Raphael Harry [00:16:10]:
Me too because jeez. They're they're having a great time. I I look at them like that. Yeah. Y'all seem you know? You know?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:16:19]:
So I've never met a stupid gay person. I'm yet to meet trying to think. Every gay person I've met has been either competent or confident.

Raphael Harry [00:16:34]:
I've met a lousy gay person. I've met a lousy gay person. Lousy? Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:16:38]:
What do you mean lousy?

Raphael Harry [00:16:41]:
Oh, he he couldn't keep the time.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:16:42]:
Oh, okay. Oh, you're like a okay.

Raphael Harry [00:16:46]:
Yeah. It it and he got some other issues, but if yeah. But, but when it comes to, like, doing the job, competence on the job, yeah, he was he was on on that. But, but he's he's, like, a minor huge minority out of, like, all the gay people I've met. Yeah. But still, it's I take every gay person I've met over,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:17:07]:
my Exact I'm I'm wondering exactly these people who are worried about the gay agenda. I would like, especially if you take the case of Florida

Raphael Harry [00:17:15]:
I wouldn't take any one of them. I mean, when all the people worried about gay agenda, I wouldn't

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:17:19]:
take anyone That's a that's a case study.

Raphael Harry [00:17:21]:
I wouldn't trade I wouldn't trade them for I won't trade a gay person for any one of them.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:17:25]:
It's not even that. I mean, like, if we take the case of Florida, you know, there are people parents in Florida who are going and going to all these school board meetings and complaining about the gay agenda. To these parents, I have to ask, I mean, would you rather your child at school turn gay or be shot? Oh. And I would rather my son come back gay than to not come back at all. And I'm like, why are they not at the school board meetings complaining about things like the Parkland shooting and whatnot? Why do they care about No.

Raphael Harry [00:18:00]:
It's it's all and they're they're they're they're they're afraid because if they're allowed to gain us, then you allow the blackness. You allow them. Mhmm. They allowed they it's all part of the

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:18:11]:
Yeah. But they're but they're already allowing the worst thing ever into their child, which is a lead bullet at extremely high speed.

Raphael Harry [00:18:19]:
Oh, that's fine. Second amendment to them. So

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:18:23]:
The being is a custom on them.

Raphael Harry [00:18:28]:
They they they want they want our kids to live in a world like New York where where everybody's just being shot on the streets. I'm like, okay. Why? I wanna come spend vacation in New York. I wanna come to

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:18:39]:
New York. Don't come. Yeah. Every time I see a Florida license plate, I'm like

Raphael Harry [00:18:44]:
Why? Yeah. Why are you

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:18:46]:
Every time I see a a Florida license plate, you know what I wanna say? There is space between the UPS truck and the car. You can actually go through. You can squeeze past.

Raphael Harry [00:18:59]:
Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. These people.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:19:07]:
Hey. What's the what's the

Raphael Harry [00:19:08]:
Yeah. You'll have the right to vote, unfortunately. Oh, yeah. What is the one thing you'll be really disappointed if you never get to experience it? God damn.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:19:24]:
What? Sex with 3 were better at the same time. Really disappointed. I never get to experience.

Raphael Harry [00:19:35]:
Oh.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:19:36]:
Because it's not space travel or anything like that.

Raphael Harry [00:19:43]:
This time. I won't even yeah. I don't think I've considered Experience. I think this mine might be travel related.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:19:54]:
Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. But which one? Which one would hurt the most?

Raphael Harry [00:20:07]:
Oh,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:20:12]:
I have I have one. Yeah. Yeah. I got I got a place that I really need to go to. Mhmm. It's almost like a pilgrimage. It is so if I never get to go to Western Australia, probably, I would be very disappointed. If I never get to experience Western Australia.

Raphael Harry [00:20:30]:
Why Western Australia?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:20:31]:
Western Australia is a very important, place. It's kind of like a weird place. There's a mixture of things that are drawing me there over the last 5 years. There are 3 main things. One is there is a lot of research going on there in very advanced neuropsychology.

Raphael Harry [00:20:50]:
Okay.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:20:51]:
Something very important to me that and really getting down to the core of, like, what is the connection between, like, the brain and the outer world, you know. Oh. That's one thing that's going on. Another thing is, lot of, like, indigenous myths, the aboriginal myths. A lot of them features very, like, very foundational myths. Also, they are also ancient relatives of the Dravidian people who were in South India.

Raphael Harry [00:21:18]:
Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:21:19]:
So, you know, that's kind of, like, the next step of the story, you know. Oh. So that's important in that way. The third thing, very recently, they discovered, like, 4 years ago, a fossilized algae, which is perfect, you know, which they say is almost 3,800,000,000 years old, which moves back our understanding of when did life emerge on this planet, you know. And it looks like life has been on this planet if this is real, this finding is real, like, for 90% of the time that Earth has existed. You know, it's almost like life and Earth are are like the same thing. They're they're connected. They're one thing, you know.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:22:03]:
Like, it's not like the Earth was created and then life began. It was almost the same time, you know. And so that that's that that's a huge finding, you know, geologically or biologically, I guess. And, so given these three things, I really feel like I need to go there spiritually. I mean, if I don't experience that, I might be disappointed.

Raphael Harry [00:22:30]:
So you mean to say that God did not create the earth in 7 days?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:22:35]:
No. I'm actually saying he did. That's the point. The it it really happened very quickly right after each other. It's not it didn't it's not like what we think about in science where it happened and then for many years, there was nothing. Because all, actually, all at the same time, it happened. It's amazing. It is like yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:22:54]:
Actually, that's proof of God.

Raphael Harry [00:22:56]:
That's good, man. See, that's that's that's why the f is only 2000 years old. So, therefore, 1 +1 equals 1. Terrence Howard was right.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:23:10]:
Yeah. Yeah. I did try to watch. I I tried to watch. I just didn't under I just couldn't get through. Like, I just didn't understand. I just couldn't, like, I couldn't even, like yeah. I just didn't it seemed like yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:23:24]:
Anyway, sorry. What is your answer

Raphael Harry [00:23:26]:
to your view? Yeah. That that those are numbers We

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:23:28]:
talk about

Raphael Harry [00:23:28]:
for listeners. Yeah. That was number of you. Yeah. Listeners, let us know your your answers to all the questions asked so far.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:23:35]:
What would you be disappointed

Raphael Harry [00:23:37]:
if you never get experience? You know, right now

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:23:40]:
I still stand by it.

Raphael Harry [00:23:41]:
I just text these

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:23:42]:
3 women at the same time. I would be very disappointed if

Raphael Harry [00:23:45]:
I did. I I mine is still travel related, but I can't ping down one specific place because, for me, I would love to visit all 54 countries in Africa, Mhmm. At least. But at the same time, I also love to visit all the countries in Asia. Mhmm. So if I'm not aware, I visit all the countries in the world, to be

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:07]:
honest. The specific That's

Raphael Harry [00:24:11]:
true. Specific Yeah. One place Yeah. Madagascar. Oh, that's good. Because, yeah, I I know that Madagascar from the little that I know,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:27]:
Fascinating. Geology Fascinating. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:24:30]:
There's a lot of fascination

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:31]:
Yes.

Raphael Harry [00:24:32]:
Fascinating things about the place and the people. It's unique. And it's tied to Indonesia.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:37]:
It is. It is.

Raphael Harry [00:24:38]:
The the main there's very

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:40]:
Yes.

Raphael Harry [00:24:41]:
Small tiny

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:41]:
Yes.

Raphael Harry [00:24:42]:
Part of the population tied to the main main continent of Africa.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:45]:
To Maldives. It's correct. It's amaze.

Raphael Harry [00:24:48]:
It's yeah. There's so much uniqueness Yes. Of that place. Yeah. So, yeah, I I just gotta go there and see.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:24:56]:
There's a lot of history. If you if you're a fan of pirates Mhmm. Pirates and stuff, very important. So For piracy.

Raphael Harry [00:25:03]:
So I I will, I haven't It's a good

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:05]:
one.

Raphael Harry [00:25:06]:
Really tossed that part of

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:07]:
Africa yet. Western Australia too is right there. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:25:11]:
It's just,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:11]:
two sides.

Raphael Harry [00:25:12]:
But, one thing I gotta ask about Western Australia. How much stuff can kill me there?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:18]:
Probably a few. Probably some spiders. That would that

Raphael Harry [00:25:20]:
would be much further down the list.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:22]:
Snakes. But, what can kill you in Madagascar?

Raphael Harry [00:25:25]:
Well, in Madagascar, I got that that king, King Julian. Mhmm. That that that's fine. Ain't gonna kill me.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:31]:
Ain't gonna yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:25:32]:
Yeah. They ain't got too much there. There. Alright. What's the next question?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:35]:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, this is nice. This is cute question.

Raphael Harry [00:25:38]:
Okay.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:25:38]:
When you're feeling sick, what makes you feel better? Oh. What makes you feel better when you feel sick? Mhmm. Got to be pepper soup. Pepper soup? Yeah. I need to know what this pepper soup

Raphael Harry [00:25:50]:
it sounds really good. Well, it depends on which one you you you Sounds really good. Nigerian Mhmm. Places. Well, some Nigerian, Ghanaian pepper soup. Mhmm. I prefer Ghanaian pepper soup right now, but, oh, to light your mouth up, though. There's fish pepper soup.

Raphael Harry [00:26:05]:
There's, chicken pepper soup. There's goat pepper soup. It's like

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:26:09]:
a is it like a light soup? Like a light brothy soup?

Raphael Harry [00:26:12]:
Kind of. Mhmm. Cameroonians have theirs. Mhmm. Like mine, if it's my people, we usually we have, like, the we have plantains in ours. Oh. Some Cameroonians do that too with plantain.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:26:27]:
Yeah. Hearties.

Raphael Harry [00:26:28]:
And, I'm thinking that's a vegetarian option. I think Cameroonians and us might have, but we'd usually the the main style we do ours in is with catfish. Mhmm. You can't stand. Mhmm. I I I can't stand that.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:26:44]:
Oh, I love this. Black pepper?

Raphael Harry [00:26:47]:
Black pepper. It's a bunch of spices. I I can't it depends on which spices. Well, I like remember cooking it one time around in 96, 97. So, yeah, I can't We

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:26:59]:
have something like that. Like, a tamarind pepper soup.

Raphael Harry [00:27:02]:
It's Actually, menudo. Mhmm. The Mexicans soup with tribes and all that.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:27:09]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:27:10]:
Yeah. It's there's a version I can't remember if it's Euro bars that have their version like that. Mhmm. But I know I think Euro bars, they have the Ghanaian version looks like menudo, and Filipinos also have a soup like that. Right. Similar texture. Right.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:27:27]:
Yeah. So For my mine would be similar. It's a soup. It's a corn chowder soup.

Raphael Harry [00:27:32]:
Oh, I think

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:27:32]:
we've had that. With extra black pepper. Mhmm. Corn chowder. There's also, like, a Chinese version of it called, sweet corn soup. Mhmm. And which also is very good with white pepper. So white pepper is excellent addition to

Raphael Harry [00:27:49]:
Got it.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:27:50]:
Conchowder. Chowder is nice. You know, it's kind of hearty. Mhmm. It's easy to eat. It's soft. It's smooth.

Raphael Harry [00:27:57]:
I tried cooking with more white pepper. White pepper. Mhmm. Yeah. I don't think I've used white pepper enough. Underrated spice. Indeed. Underrated.

Raphael Harry [00:28:11]:
Alright. If you were designing your own fragrance to represent you, what would you call it?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:28:18]:
Oh, call it?

Raphael Harry [00:28:19]:
Mhmm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:28:22]:
I would call it

Raphael Harry [00:28:24]:
I'm not good at naming things.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:28:25]:
Naming things. I would call it. I would call it it would be called kick start. Kick start? Kick start, and it'll smell like petrol and burnt rubber. You know, like leather. Like like a like a motorcycle. Like a motorcycle seat that's polished, and you just finished riding it. So it smells like burnt brake dust, a little bit of gasoline, some nice polished leather.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:29:05]:
I wanna smell like that. The best way to smell it. It smells like I just got here in a hurry, baby, for you. You know? And you know that the motorcycle is old. Uh-huh. It doesn't have the button start. It's got a kick start.

Raphael Harry [00:29:21]:
I don't know. That is the thing. The Cafe. Our our women need to write in and let us know if, that works, if that sounds like

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:29:30]:
The truth is women don't really like guys who ride motorcycles.

Raphael Harry [00:29:34]:
Who told you that?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:29:35]:
I don't. That's that's like when they're young, but, like, women don't like it. Girls might like it, but women

Raphael Harry [00:29:42]:
I I thought the silver foxes on motorcycles do

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:29:45]:
I don't think they didn't like that.

Raphael Harry [00:29:47]:
Oh, well, you might you might be onto something there.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:29:49]:
I think it's more younger adolescent thing. Right? But there's no woman.

Raphael Harry [00:29:55]:
What I'm saying?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:29:56]:
Think of motorcycles as being, like, very Reckless. Reckless. Like, at at our age, what I mean is, like, a station wagon.

Raphael Harry [00:30:04]:
You're like, yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:30:11]:
You get a station. Right? You get a like, a like, I'm I'm serious. Guys, you want an older woman? Get a station wagon. Get a Volvo. Get a Volvo station wagon. That's it. I mean, you'll you're rolling in it. Oh, man.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:30:29]:
What would you what would you what would you call it?

Raphael Harry [00:30:32]:
I don't know. No. You made me laugh so much. I can't remember what

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:30:36]:
Okay. I I I I rename it. I rename it to Cafe Racer. That's the name of my perfume. Cafe Racer? Cafe Racer.

Raphael Harry [00:30:45]:
Oh. And it

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:30:46]:
smells like leather, gasoline, and a little bit of brake dust.

Raphael Harry [00:30:52]:
Burnt. I am. Good thing Paula is not here because Paul Paul out of. They're laughing at us. Oh, no. Let me see.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:03]:
Like a risk taker.

Raphael Harry [00:31:05]:
Mine will be, man. You know what? I'm just gonna go. I'm gonna cheat the game, man. I'm just gonna go to sailor. Mm-mm. No. Desert sailor.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:20]:
Okay. That's good.

Raphael Harry [00:31:21]:
I mean, I was a desert sailor too.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:22]:
Oh, yeah. What but, what does it describe the fragrance?

Raphael Harry [00:31:25]:
That's a good that's a good

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:27]:
question. Desert.

Raphael Harry [00:31:29]:
Desert Sailor. Oh, it smells like.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:32]:
Smells like Dune. The movie Dune. It smells okay. No. We could think.

Raphael Harry [00:31:39]:
Let's work. Let's Smells

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:41]:
like spice. Yeah. Spice. Spice. Okay.

Raphael Harry [00:31:43]:
Spice. What's spice smell like from

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:45]:
Spice. All spice. Do. You know, oud.

Raphael Harry [00:31:47]:
Do you

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:47]:
know what is oud? The Arabic perfume from the from the Oh,

Raphael Harry [00:31:52]:
yeah. I did try that when I was Like frankincense. Yeah. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:31:54]:
You know what I'm yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, there you go. Desert sailor. But then sailor, so it's gotta smell like a little bit like salt.

Raphael Harry [00:32:02]:
Mhmm. And

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:32:02]:
salt Saltiest. It got sea salty the mists Exactly. From It's gotta have that

Raphael Harry [00:32:09]:
But it has the it's like the morning

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:32:11]:
A little bit of cactus.

Raphael Harry [00:32:14]:
Oh, yeah. Well, I guess you do the whole marketing thing.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:32:17]:
I should do marketing. Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:32:18]:
We're we're sure, man. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:32:20]:
I think

Raphael Harry [00:32:20]:
that might be easier than what we'll do.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:32:26]:
Oh, man. I wanna, oh, to attract women, maybe you wanna smell like a freshly changed diaper. Oh, no. Freshly done dishes. Freshly done dishes? Freshly done dishes? Done dishes. Okay.

Raphael Harry [00:32:38]:
Dishes. That's a good one.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:32:38]:
That's a good one.

Raphael Harry [00:32:39]:
You smell

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:32:39]:
like the dishes.

Raphael Harry [00:32:43]:
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Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:33:26]:
What do you keep on your desk or workspace area that boosts your mood? Something that you keep on your desk or workspace area that boosts your mood. My answer, I already know. Oh, I got a stress ball.

Raphael Harry [00:33:47]:
And What

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:33:49]:
does your hand go to?

Raphael Harry [00:33:51]:
Well, my stress ball Yeah. Bounces It's

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:33:53]:
a good one.

Raphael Harry [00:33:54]:
On the wall. Yeah. It's a little bouncy one. Not a I

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:33:56]:
I What what does it look like? What does it look like?

Raphael Harry [00:33:59]:
Well, the current one that I have is the Golden State Warrior Mhmm. Which I'm not a supporter of the Golden State

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:34:07]:
Warrior. Better.

Raphael Harry [00:34:08]:
But, I don't know how Abuse it. Yeah. But it's it's very soft, bouncy, so it's nice for bouncing on the wall. Mhmm. Because it doesn't really it's not hard. Also, just go back. And that's why my kids always tries to steal it. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:34:25]:
And she

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:34:25]:
has already stolen it. That's cute. Kids always do that. It's so amazing. They're noticing, like, what things are we attached to.

Raphael Harry [00:34:34]:
Yeah. And, I got, one of one I always change the musical instruments

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:34:40]:
Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:34:41]:
On my desk or sometimes I just

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:34:43]:
That's good.

Raphael Harry [00:34:43]:
Stretch my fingers and play something. And, well, there's photos around. Mhmm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:34:52]:
Mhmm. Only photos. Definitely. Of people who don't,

Raphael Harry [00:34:57]:
stare up bad memories or anger within me. The So and there's a microphone. Uh-huh.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:35:04]:
Oh, yeah. You record when you

Raphael Harry [00:35:06]:
No. No. Just, I I need to do that so I can write a book

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:35:09]:
Oh, yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:35:10]:
Or 2. But, yeah, I have microphone that is not plugged into anything.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:35:15]:
Oh, like a handheld? No. Just a microphone. That's I need to Okay. Okay. Just Got it.

Raphael Harry [00:35:20]:
Plug it, make it functional, but it's just standing Got it.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:35:24]:
Bye. Nice. Nice. Mine too would be things like that. Mine is guitar. You know? That's my main one. I'm surrounded. I have 4 around me at all times.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:35:35]:
You know? That's definitely a comfort object. It's definitely what gets me centered the fastest. But it's actually not the one that I go to the most often that would be the healthiest thing to do. Unhealthy things, comfort objects, maybe weed pen. Hey. PlayStation 5 controller. Those would be the ones that at least that my hand reaches out to first. And then I try to check myself and go to the guitar instead.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:36:07]:
You know? But the guitar for me is definitely what really boosts my, and I and I try and I always go through a hierarchy. I I start with the base guitar. Yeah. Then I get to the electric, and then the steel string acoustic, and then finally, the nylon string classical. And by the time I get to the 4th guitar, you know, it usually takes me, like, a week. I cycle Wow. You know? By the time I I get I feel, like, my fingers are stronger, and I feel, like, more into them by the time I get to the classical guitar, because it's kind of, like, a combination of all the skills.

Raphael Harry [00:36:46]:
Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:36:46]:
You know? And, but and, I just love that my my my son has opinions Oh. On my guitar playing Mhmm. Such as what song I should play on which instrument, and, also, when should I stop playing. You know? Like, today, he let me play 2 songs. I started the 3rd song. He came very gently, took the guitar, and put it away. You know?

Raphael Harry [00:37:11]:
That's nice.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:12]:
He's like, okay. I'm done now.

Raphael Harry [00:37:13]:
My mind is usually like, yeah. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:16]:
Papa. Uh-huh.

Raphael Harry [00:37:17]:
That's enough.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:18]:
Oh, yeah. That's cute.

Raphael Harry [00:37:19]:
Papa, you're not you're not really good.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:21]:
Oh, that's it.

Raphael Harry [00:37:23]:
Yeah. She's, that's when the German side comes out. Well, actually, the Nigerian

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:27]:
side too. Because Yeah. I think so.

Raphael Harry [00:37:29]:
Nigerians are very they're very blunt. Yeah. Both both of them, actually. Nigerians, they're just a

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:35]:
I can see that. I can see both being blunt in different way.

Raphael Harry [00:37:38]:
Yeah. They're blunt because, you know, Nigerian will see a photo of you and, like, oh, you're I can Oh, you're putting out so much weight.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:45]:
Uh-huh.

Raphael Harry [00:37:46]:
You know your fat.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:47]:
I could see the Germans being blunt in a kind of cold way and then Nigerians in a hot way.

Raphael Harry [00:37:53]:
Just like In a

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:37:54]:
hot yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:37:55]:
It's kind of a love. I said that. I'm like, god. You know, you hurt somebody's feelings. Like, no. It's little but you're fat. You know you're fat. I'm like, dang.

Raphael Harry [00:38:04]:
Yeah. You know, you wrote that on somebody's Facebook. Oh, hey. Yeah. Yeah. I was seen me Yeah. What, 20 years?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:38:13]:
How about hello? Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:38:15]:
Just

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:38:15]:
How are you doing? How are

Raphael Harry [00:38:16]:
you? Photo for the first time

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:38:18]:
Oh my god.

Raphael Harry [00:38:18]:
In 10 years. Oh my god. Like, man. Damn. Boy, you're putting out too much weight, man. You need to sign up for a gene. Wow. That is, okay.

Raphael Harry [00:38:29]:
Nice to see you too.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:38:31]:
These people are the ones worried about generation z and gen alpha. These are all the boomers, gen x hating on each other. Woah. Let's get to the You

Raphael Harry [00:38:42]:
know, you know, we got inbox. Yeah. What's the main thing on your bucket list? Dang. Do I still have a bucket list? Bucket list.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:38:54]:
Mine is to it's all travel related, isn't it? All travel related questions, you know. For me, really, again, you know, for me, I would love to visit the Galapagos, you know, the Pacific. I would love to visit Central Asia.

Raphael Harry [00:39:11]:
Yep. That's that's to visit

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:39:13]:
Central Asia.

Raphael Harry [00:39:14]:
I've never been to That's

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:39:15]:
definitely on the bucket list.

Raphael Harry [00:39:18]:
Well, I'm knocking out one next year. Where? Morocco. Oh, beautiful. Man, it's actually two things. Mhmm. Because it's, Morocco and African Cup of Nations. Mhmm. Because there'll be a lot of, you know, all of Africa coming there for the tournament.

Raphael Harry [00:39:33]:
So nice to talk to people from all of Africa. Nice. So, that used to be one of the main things because I knocked out one this year, which was the European, championship being in a country hosting European championship. So Soon World Cup?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:39:55]:
Oh, you're not a fan of the World Cup?

Raphael Harry [00:39:57]:
No. I'm a fan of the World Cup, but it it feels weird.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:40:00]:
Yeah?

Raphael Harry [00:40:01]:
I I don't know. I'll have to wait until it happens.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:40:04]:
Because of FIFA? Or

Raphael Harry [00:40:05]:
No. I'm I'm not hung up on FIFA, like, with it's a pretentious thing for me.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:40:11]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:40:12]:
When when because it was like, you yeah. When you are benefiting, you don't you know, it's different, and then you join it at other countries. But It

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:40:20]:
feels like cheating itself.

Raphael Harry [00:40:22]:
What what I mean by weird is that I'm in a country that it's not a sport.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:40:28]:
Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:40:29]:
Yeah. Oh, I see

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:40:30]:
what you mean.

Raphael Harry [00:40:30]:
When I was in Germany

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:40:31]:
Uh-huh. Yeah. It makes sense. Euros Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:40:33]:
Yeah. As as soon as you cross the border from Netherlands into Germany, you knew that, you know, soccer tournament was happening here. Here, it won't be like that. Edge. It would change. Every building you saw, you knew something was happening here. No. Here, it won't be the same.

Raphael Harry [00:40:50]:
You you you you would just except you're in certain neighborhoods, then you know that, oh, there's something going on. And you have to ask, oh, what's going on? If otherwise, life would just be

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:00]:
Is there a New York thing? You think where like, for instance, recently, I found out there was a Trump rally in New York City.

Raphael Harry [00:41:06]:
Oh, yes.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:07]:
This is shocking to me. I have no idea.

Raphael Harry [00:41:09]:
If I didn't yeah. Absolutely. It was until I saw the

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:13]:
And then I saw a lot of pictures and videos of Manhattan looking so different, but then I never even would have known.

Raphael Harry [00:41:19]:
I didn't know what's happening that day until you

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:22]:
But, yeah, I definitely see your point. Like, of all the countries to host, World Cup to be excited about the US is one of the last ones. Mhmm. You're right. Yeah. I'm interested. Okay.

Raphael Harry [00:41:32]:
We'll we'll see. I I will It's also a good

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:34]:
bucket list.

Raphael Harry [00:41:35]:
Yeah. It's

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:35]:
a good buck bucket. I also knocked one out when I was younger. Luckily, we're just seeing MIA live.

Raphael Harry [00:41:42]:
Ah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:42]:
In Brooklyn. I saw her in Brooklyn.

Raphael Harry [00:41:45]:
I saw her in stuff. A friend told me today who you you you still haven't you got to meet her. She's personally DJ at my birthday.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:41:55]:
Oh, yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:41:56]:
And she is like, I need to take you to the I'm I'm gonna take you to the nightclub, one of these things. Oh. Oh? I'm like, I'm not do I see how outfits for a nightclub? I don't know. Do I will I pass the the The vibe check. The vibe check or the security allow me in. I don't know if I'm that cool.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:42:15]:
Well, if the DJ if you're on the DJ's list. Hey. Well The VIP.

Raphael Harry [00:42:20]:
We'll see. Hopefully. You know? I make it to house parties, but

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:42:23]:
I'm not gonna make

Raphael Harry [00:42:23]:
it to night clubs. So so yeah. But, yeah. So mine is mostly traveling. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:42:30]:
Travel related.

Raphael Harry [00:42:31]:
On a man's. Definitely. Yeah. So we'll see. Alright.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:42:36]:
We're not gonna wear a lot. This okay. I don't know how to interpret this question. Okay. What is something you don't mind sharing with other people? I guess they mean like an object rather than information. What is something you don't mind sharing with other people? Like like an object.

Raphael Harry [00:42:59]:
Well, after COVID. I buy I know you were. You were. 9099. Mhmm. Nigeria hosted the on the 20 World Cup. Mhmm. And we were watching a game at some I don't know what that place was.

Raphael Harry [00:43:26]:
I think it was a motel. What are these? Maybe 1 star motels because you don't really know it's a motel except you live in that neighborhood. So probably it was for the boys who are way older than me.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:43:39]:
Yep. Yep. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:43:40]:
Sneaking Mhmm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:43:42]:
Who The ladies?

Raphael Harry [00:43:43]:
Mistresses, mistas to older women or vice versa, whatever. But somehow, I ended up in there because I've never been in that building before. I'm watching a game because you wanted to be in community. And I remember somebody lighting his cigarette, like, at the end. Mhmm. And he was like, pass it. He just went through the hole. And he got to me.

Raphael Harry [00:44:11]:
I was like, that's funny. That's the next question.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:18]:
So funny. That's a good one. It's a good one.

Raphael Harry [00:44:21]:
So, yeah. It was it was

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:23]:
My friends and I went straight past around a cigar. It was so gross.

Raphael Harry [00:44:28]:
Oh, man. Cigar, man. That was

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:31]:
because we didn't have anything. We were so like, we just have we just found a cigar, and we didn't know what to do with it.

Raphael Harry [00:44:38]:
A full cigar?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:39]:
A full cigar.

Raphael Harry [00:44:40]:
Oh, man. And we tried to share a full You probably bought a little well, that was also pre COVID, but a whole bottle of,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:48]:
of

Raphael Harry [00:44:48]:
liquor too.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:49]:
Of course.

Raphael Harry [00:44:50]:
Yeah. That was easy to pass around. But now I don't know if I wanna share a bottle. I got I gotta know who you are. 1st, you gotta pass the flag check.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:56]:
Oh, no. Oh, you

Raphael Harry [00:44:57]:
got my background check. You give

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:44:59]:
me I want a full STD check. Yeah. STD. Everything. Freaking STD check.

Raphael Harry [00:45:04]:
I

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:45:04]:
ain't sharing nothing with you before.

Raphael Harry [00:45:07]:
Yeah. I mean, like, I don't know.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:45:09]:
I'm like, is that glass sterilized? Excuse me, sir. Is that crack pipe sterilized?

Raphael Harry [00:45:16]:
That's that's why I I envy the kids, man, because kids can share anything. They just There you go.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:45:22]:
Cough right in their mouth.

Raphael Harry [00:45:23]:
Yeah. Everything goes. For me, it's clothes. Yeah. Clothes is nice. I am

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:45:27]:
you know, I buy vintage used clothes all the time. Shoes too. I don't mind. Some people are grossed out by it, but I don't mind sharing.

Raphael Harry [00:45:36]:
I mean, I I I wash my sneakers. So

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:45:39]:
Not food. Not sharing food.

Raphael Harry [00:45:41]:
No. No.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:45:42]:
I hate it when someone I

Raphael Harry [00:45:43]:
mean, yeah, I can't This is sensory food. Like, I can't like, I mean sensory. I've done communal eating Yeah. Where we all eat from the same Oh, no. Yeah. Plate, but just COVID, man. It's hard, man. It's hard.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:45:55]:
Always been a tough thing for me.

Raphael Harry [00:45:56]:
I can't I can't do that like, like before. So

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:46:00]:
I will share food, just not utensils. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

Raphael Harry [00:46:04]:
Yeah. No. No. No. Yeah. One quick thing about food, back in my days Mhmm. There was, one guy in our crew. If he showed up and you were eating, hey, man.

Raphael Harry [00:46:17]:
What you got there, man? What chicken and rice? Oh, man. Oh. Can I can I get

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:46:24]:
Getting stabbed?

Raphael Harry [00:46:25]:
Can I can I get a bite?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:46:26]:
Getting stabbed. Getting stabbed. Getting stabbed.

Raphael Harry [00:46:28]:
I was gonna ask, you you you start moving your plates away like, man. I don't I don't I don't fly share my my food. You know what do you do? You just spit in your food.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:46:36]:
I that that person is getting stabbed. He's stabbed right in the mouth.

Raphael Harry [00:46:40]:
What's his spot in your food? You know, you you live in like, man, I I That

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:46:44]:
this would would go upside his head, and he wouldn't see Oh my god.

Raphael Harry [00:46:49]:
Oh, he's real bulling.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:46:50]:
Because I know exactly who this person is, and I

Raphael Harry [00:46:53]:
Oh, man. Know. Well, he was part of the cruise, so that's that's how he used to get plates.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:00]:
Oh, man. Terrible.

Raphael Harry [00:47:01]:
Terrible. Do you put up a boundary in any area of your life to keep people out? I know the answer. I mean,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:11]:
this is Yahoo.

Raphael Harry [00:47:13]:
Oh, Jesus.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:13]:
No. But okay. Then next Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:47:18]:
Wait. We don't need this one. This is Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:20]:
This is a bit yeah. Stressful. Who doesn't? I don't

Raphael Harry [00:47:23]:
I don't think Who

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:25]:
don't have a boundary.

Raphael Harry [00:47:26]:
I mean,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:26]:
even there, but

Raphael Harry [00:47:27]:
But this wasn't meant for us.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:29]:
Yeah. Yes.

Raphael Harry [00:47:30]:
Yeah. This wasn't meant

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:31]:
for us. Yes or no?

Raphael Harry [00:47:32]:
Have you met us?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:33]:
What even can wait. Yes or no question?

Raphael Harry [00:47:36]:
Definitely.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:37]:
Yes or no question in this card, we need to write to whoever made this.

Raphael Harry [00:47:41]:
It's not

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:41]:
put yes I'm

Raphael Harry [00:47:42]:
I'm not the person.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:44]:
This is a good one. What are most people afraid of that doesn't scare you?

Raphael Harry [00:47:52]:
What are most afraid of?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:54]:
You're a soldier.

Raphael Harry [00:47:56]:
I'm a sailor. Yeah. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:47:58]:
Sailor. Sorry.

Raphael Harry [00:47:59]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. Gotta make that distinction because Yes. Of course. What I must be afraid of. It doesn't scare me. What's that song? No.

Raphael Harry [00:48:19]:
I can't remember the day. I ain't never scared. I ain't never scared. I ain't scared. I ain't scared of,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:48:29]:
public speaking.

Raphael Harry [00:48:32]:
Yeah. I get anxious, but I'm not really scared of public speaking.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:48:36]:
Me neither.

Raphael Harry [00:48:37]:
Yeah. On the political side of things, I'm scared of them. Magoff people, man. Mhmm. Doesn't mean I wanna get into arguments with them.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:48:47]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:48:47]:
In fact, I'm I'm I'm not scared of the manosphere. I'm not scared of them. But I'm not gonna spend my energy on those people. Like, when y'all want

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:48:55]:
me to

Raphael Harry [00:48:56]:
take the mic. Bye. I'll leave I'll leave leave y'all, like, I'm not that doesn't mean I wanna spend time. Whichever group you belong to, once you wanna start yelling, I'm like, is it one more time? No. But I ain't scared of you. Because if I really need to spend the time on you, I can make you look bad because I'm good at words. And I'm not interested in making you think about ending your life. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:49:23]:
Mhmm. I have that power. Mhmm. So I have to be careful Yeah. How I use that power too. So I'm like, it's not worth my time. And I know some people, some of them I look at like victory, you walked away. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:49:40]:
Mhmm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:49:40]:
If that Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:49:41]:
Yeah. Yeah. But that doesn't

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:49:43]:
mean I'm afraid

Raphael Harry [00:49:44]:
of you. Mhmm. Mhmm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:49:46]:
So yeah. Definitely. For me, like, I would also say for me, like, personally, like, things like accidents or when shit goes down. Like, I get afraid later, but in the moment, I'm very good at keeping children acting.

Raphael Harry [00:50:01]:
Oh, yeah. I'm I'm also not afraid of, blood in that kind of Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:50:05]:
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Later on, I'll cry. I'll admit it. I'm not like, you know

Raphael Harry [00:50:10]:
Oh, I there was,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:50:11]:
I'll I'll later break down, but at that moment, I'm, like, cold as ice. There was

Raphael Harry [00:50:16]:
a time a guy who was in our crew, he was supposed to be a gangster. One star, more more like, but he was more muscular, bigger than Yeah. Maybe, like, 2, 3 times my size.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:50:28]:
He How did he know this story? He was

Raphael Harry [00:50:31]:
gambling with some of that Uh-huh. A smaller much smaller dude

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:50:34]:
Uh-huh.

Raphael Harry [00:50:34]:
But who had more action on him.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:50:36]:
Uh-huh. And

Raphael Harry [00:50:36]:
the dude literally stabbed him in the neck. And he was

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:50:40]:
But it's not going well,

Raphael Harry [00:50:42]:
I thought. Yeah. Yeah. Every other person was like, oh my god. He's bleeding.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:50:45]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:50:45]:
And I was the one who came and put, you know, put a piece of cloth clean. Like, I took off my, like, a plain white T shirt. I had to take it off and, you know, work had to walk into the the pharmacies because we couldn't we don't have 911 back then. So, even the woman refused to treat him, like, to stitch it, stop the bleeding because she was like, he he's a gangster and all that kind of stuff. I was like, man, this is not the time to be preaching. If you can save his life, just save his life. It's like, no. He must be in a gang because I know the boss stopped him.

Raphael Harry [00:51:17]:
That boy is definitely in a gang. And he the the guy was almost passing out, and every rapper was like, oh, oh, oh, and now that they were surprised. I was just quiet and just Yeah. I was like, oh.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:51:28]:
Got it. I I can freak out later.

Raphael Harry [00:51:30]:
And she was like, hey. Just keep the pressure on. No. Don't don't let it bleed out. And I was the only person who did that. And afterwards, he was like, damn. You didn't flinch. You didn't okay.

Raphael Harry [00:51:40]:
I respect you now. Wow. Because he always made fun of me and said some mean stuff, but Mhmm. After that day, he was like, oh, okay. Okay. I see. I see. These are our guys.

Raphael Harry [00:51:51]:
All of you run away. Mhmm. I thought you were I thought you were all the men. I thought you were real men. Well alright. So this will be my last question. Uh-huh. When you wake up in the morning, what is your number one priority?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:52:07]:
Priority? I mean, this is I mean, we're both dads. Yep. You know the answer. Mhmm. It's keeping the kid happy. Happy until they get on the bus. Happy, motivated, confident people who are getting into the bus. After that, I just collapse, you know, and I start my daily addiction routines of caffeine and consuming, like, source you know, like, whatever news and things like that.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:52:42]:
But until then, it's all about it's all about creating this kind of peaceful dreamland scenario where the kid can, like like, I have to wake up, prep the the the, you know, the lunch Mhmm. The breakfast

Raphael Harry [00:52:59]:
Yep.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:53:00]:
Gently wake him up with music

Raphael Harry [00:53:02]:
Oh, yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:53:03]:
Directly guide him directly to the shower Music. Brush the teeth, Do the shower. Come out. Now as soon as he comes out, oh, guess what? Magically, there's food, hot, fresh food that somehow appeared. Totally not his mom making it in the kitchen while I showered him, and then he comes out and then, yeah, get dressed and we play and somehow we are in the lobby. Oh, what's that? Oh, it's a bus. Oh, yeah. It's

Raphael Harry [00:53:28]:
dressed. Amazing.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:53:30]:
As soon as he leaves, the elections are coming. God, woman mess my coffee. We have to go. I gotta get to work. You know, all the anxiety. But until then, it's, yeah, it's all about hold like, yeah, keeping the dream alive.

Raphael Harry [00:53:48]:
Oh, yeah. It's, It's

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:53:50]:
keeping the dream

Raphael Harry [00:53:50]:
alive. It's for them. Yeah. That's all the questions. Like, oh, I don't wanna wake up. I'm still sleepy.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:53:58]:
Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:53:59]:
I need to sleep a little bit more.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:00]:
That's can I ask you a related question? Yeah. What is your usual, like, first thought of the day?

Raphael Harry [00:54:06]:
When I wake up.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:08]:
Even before your first thing that comes to mind?

Raphael Harry [00:54:13]:
That's good. I'm mine is usually blank.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:16]:
Mine is very negative. I have a horrible gossip to myself in the morning.

Raphael Harry [00:54:20]:
Oh my god. I gotta walk that dog.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:23]:
Exactly. That is good. That is good. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. My my my

Raphael Harry [00:54:29]:
dog As soon as I take that step, the dog is like,

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:32]:
oh my god. Goes there again.

Raphael Harry [00:54:33]:
Yeah. You know, I I just let me get make it to the bathroom first. You're already whining. God damn.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:39]:
Mine is either like, fuck. I'm still alive. You know? Or it's something like, ah, the abuse begins. Oh, so

Raphael Harry [00:54:48]:
sometimes the the washed agenda kicks in because The what? The washed agenda.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:52]:
That was it.

Raphael Harry [00:54:53]:
Oh, yeah. Because, you know, if you if I don't stretch

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:56]:
Oh. Before I get out there Yes.

Raphael Harry [00:54:57]:
You're out. That's

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:54:59]:
what I mean. Ow. Exactly. That's what I mean. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:55:02]:
You know? The watched agenda, man. Exactly. Once you cross 40 Uh-huh. Yeah. I yeah. Shout out to Anton on MCU University podcast. As soon as he said that, I was like, goddamn. It's true.

Raphael Harry [00:55:13]:
I'll be I'll be feeling it. So yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:55:16]:
Oh, this is a tough

Raphael Harry [00:55:18]:
What is the final question?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:55:19]:
Last question, but nice one. Would you rather have a cool boss and learn nothing or a strict boss who you learn from?

Raphael Harry [00:55:32]:
Well, it gotta be this question. Cool boss. I'll learn nothing on a strict boss. Strict boss who you learn from. You know what? I'll take the strict boss. Yeah. Mhmm. And at least I know where you stand.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:55:57]:
Give example.

Raphael Harry [00:56:02]:
Well

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:56:03]:
Mhmm. A strict boss that you learn something from.

Raphael Harry [00:56:08]:
Technically, she wasn't strict. Mhmm. But she was still, you know, my my my my favorite boss in the navy was my coolest. Was she was cool. Mhmm. But, hey, when it came down to laying down the road, she was she was laying down the road.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:56:25]:
That's important.

Raphael Harry [00:56:26]:
But, yeah. So she was strict. She was strict. Yeah. She was strict.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:56:29]:
But Absolutely.

Raphael Harry [00:56:30]:
Just, she didn't like it if you like. You know, if she had to find out if there was something wrong, you came up. You can't tell her first. Don't tell me to find out from

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:56:39]:
Same here.

Raphael Harry [00:56:40]:
Other departments, that kind of thing. Yeah. Interesting. So, I'm about the day the only day that I there was only one day throughout my 4 years in navy that I woke up that morning, and I was like, damn. I shouldn't have gone drinking with the Royal Navy. I'll never do that again. I'll never that's that's one of those days where you wake up and you're like, oh, I'm never drinking again. Yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:57:06]:
And I try to take one step, and, oh, hell no. This is oh, no.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:57:10]:
I can't Oh.

Raphael Harry [00:57:12]:
And, I I called my supervisor, and he was like, oh, man. We need you today, man. If it was any other day, I would have let you sleep sleep it off. But so I've I washed my face. I couldn't even shower. I just put on clothes, made it. Mhmm. I got to work, got to my desk, and she walked past me, and she's like, hey.

Raphael Harry [00:57:34]:
Hey. You okay? I was like, Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm she like, that you look like a mess. What happened? I was like, mama. We always call her mama. I was like, mama last night. I I I was I made a mistake of hanging out the Royal Navy.

Raphael Harry [00:57:51]:
She's like, man, just just go. Go go home. You you can't do you can't help me today. We got some inspection happening. Yeah. You you can help me today. Nah. I was like, you sure, mama?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:58:05]:
You. I I was like, come on.

Raphael Harry [00:58:07]:
I I I can I can still do this and that? She's like, no. No. No. No. No. You're gonna make us feel. Go. But I was like, okay.

Raphael Harry [00:58:14]:
I'll make it up to you. She's like, you better. But, you you leave. You leave. Go. Go. I said, you want me to come back later any day when I feel bad? She's like, nah, just just you got the whole day off. And it's not like you get military.

Raphael Harry [00:58:27]:
You know, once they take go, you're not supposed to be talking Be gone. So I left. But, every other time, you know, if I did that if I had something, I I just went up to her. Like, once I complained on Facebook, you know, when I was brand new to the commander, I didn't like some stuff I was give extra details doing. I went and complained on Facebook, and she called me. I was like, man, what what are you doing, man? Why are you doing that? Come talk to me. You know? And she got that taken off me. Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [00:58:57]:
But that's she was still the reason why I got my mari navy marine achievement medal. Mhmm. Because they tried to take it away from me. Oh, man. But she did paperwork she did was so on point that they couldn't take it away. So everything that you. You know, if as far as I followed everything that she set down to the Are

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:59:16]:
you are you still in touch with her? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Raphael Harry [00:59:19]:
She was thinking of moving to South Africa. Mhmm. I'll have to ask her if she still plans to. But, yeah. I I don't regret working with that woman. And and if I wasn't, a little bit extra stubborn back now, it's much younger. So, yeah, I think that's extra youth was still a thing.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:59:38]:
It's so fast. Mine I have the exact same answer as you and also a woman.

Raphael Harry [00:59:43]:
Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:59:43]:
My professor.

Raphael Harry [00:59:44]:
Yeah. So I I I love that woman. Shout out to you.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:59:47]:
That I I still try to be her. Mhmm. And she's now not in in in New York anymore. She went to Portugal. Oh. But even, like, for instance, you've been to my class. You've been to the exhibition.

Raphael Harry [00:59:59]:
Yes.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [00:59:59]:
All is all of that is things that she used to do, and I try to keep that alive in the university Nice. In spirit. And Yeah. And, if if sometimes I think about, like, the fact that I got a job with her so randomly. Like, I was a job that didn't exist, and I was not supposed to get it and stuff like that. Variety of random situations, things happened and coincidences and some things failed and blah blah blah. I met her. She had a pile of resumes in front of her.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:00:36]:
She picked mine out of it because in the very, very last line in my resume, I put that I had played in a band, you know. Yeah. And nobody else had done anything like that. And finally, that particular line in the resume was something that every single person told me to remove. Wow. And I said, no. I will put it because the person who will hire me will see that. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:01:04]:
And that's who hired me. And she and I thank God because if she didn't hire me in August 26, 2010, I would never have met Bertha. I would have never Edgar would not be born.

Raphael Harry [01:01:18]:
That's right.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:01:18]:
My son exists because of that meeting that I had with this lady once, and it forever changed the trajectory of my life, you know. Right. It's, you know,

Raphael Harry [01:01:29]:
the power that women have. They do. They do.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:01:32]:
And it's that that they, you know, they have these high expectations and standards. And because we are afraid to disappoint them and we respect them, we try to be better versions of ourselves.

Raphael Harry [01:01:45]:
That's right. Mhmm.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:01:47]:
That's right. And they don't even know that they're doing it. Oh. That's the best but that's what makes a good boss.

Raphael Harry [01:01:53]:
Yep.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:01:53]:
And I would take that over a cool boss Cool

Raphael Harry [01:01:56]:
boss who you doesn't care. Nothing from.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:01:59]:
Yeah. No

Raphael Harry [01:01:59]:
way. Yeah.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:02:00]:
No way. Don't I don't waste my time.

Raphael Harry [01:02:03]:
Alright. So that's a good place to end it. Thank you for being with us. Thank you, everyone.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:02:08]:
Thank you for listening.

Raphael Harry [01:02:09]:
Yeah. So if you got any yeah. Let us know your answers to the questions that have been asked. And if you want us to do this again, let us know. Do it again.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:02:18]:
Mhmm.

Raphael Harry [01:02:19]:
And if you want us to add someone to the table, you want us to bring Kori, you know, we can bring Kori if he has some Queen's answers to give us. Well, he was rapping Queen. Yeah. Or maybe one day, we'll go up to his studio. Try his studio. Yeah. We'll we'll go up there. Very nice.

Raphael Harry [01:02:36]:
Where is he at again? Win Winstead wins not Winstead. Yeah. It's it's Long Island. Whatever. They're all the same. West Hempstead? Yeah. Sometimes. So it's in Long Island.

Raphael Harry [01:02:46]:
Amen. It's Queens. Whatever. He he gonna get mad when I say that. No. I know. Is that. I'll I'll I'll I'll call this out in the clip.

Raphael Harry [01:02:55]:
Alright. So, you got anything to plug in today?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:02:59]:
I'm actually doing an event on December 3rd Alright. At 6 Metro Tech Center Brooklyn. Okay. 10 AM. Okay. It's a Tuesday. Anyone and everyone is welcome. It is an event about belonging.

Raphael Harry [01:03:14]:
Oh, nice.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:03:15]:
Belonging in NYC. Okay. A lot of the time as an immigrant, I get asked this question, where is home? Mhmm. And every time somebody asks me that question, they are implying that it is not here. And I get asked this question in Ecuador, in New York, in Chennai.

Raphael Harry [01:03:34]:
Yeah. I do get that.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:03:35]:
And so exactly. You know what I'm talking about. So where is home? It's where we belong.

Raphael Harry [01:03:40]:
We should do an episode.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:03:41]:
So that is the title of my event is where we belong. Alright. And it's December 3rd.

Raphael Harry [01:03:47]:
So we should do we should do a recording close-up to that. So

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:03:50]:
We should do, like, a reaction to that. We should we should go to the event and and then do the recording Okay. So we can react. We can do a live review.

Raphael Harry [01:03:59]:
Alright. We can

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:03:59]:
make fun of the students.

Raphael Harry [01:04:01]:
Yeah. I do have I have actually, I have stuff to record with. I just need to get better at using it.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:04:08]:
Oh, that's a good idea.

Raphael Harry [01:04:09]:
Yeah. Alright. We'll do that. So you had I should where is this happening at again?

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:04:14]:
6 Metro Tech Center. Okay. Brooklyn.

Raphael Harry [01:04:18]:
Okay.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:04:19]:
So you had? 10 AM.

Raphael Harry [01:04:21]:
Is it do they have to come in? It's free. It's free. Free.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:04:24]:
You just have to tell the security I'm I'm there for the event.

Raphael Harry [01:04:29]:
Okay.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:04:29]:
The maker space event.

Raphael Harry [01:04:30]:
Alright. So all that will be in the show notes. Come out. Come support Ashwin. Mhmm. And I'll be there most definitely. So you hang out with both of us, and maybe Corey will be there so he can answer questions for himself Mhmm. And also explain.

Raphael Harry [01:04:46]:
Where I

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:04:46]:
take plug my my son's birthday party? No. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna plug

Raphael Harry [01:04:51]:
Except they bring him presents for me too. $5 a month. Go buy merch. Go buy merch. Go buy merch, and join our Patreon and support the podcast. Alright. Keep the support coming. Share with your friends.

Raphael Harry [01:05:08]:
Check out our merch and donation options. Thank you for being a part of our journey. Here's to 6 more years, and, yeah, keep the love coming in. You know? Thank you. Say thank you again. Nandri. Nandri. That's easier.

Raphael Harry [01:05:24]:
Nandri. Nandri. Nandri Vanakkum. Yeah. Nandri Vanakkum. See. I remember. I remember.

Raphael Harry [01:05:30]:
Your mom still say, I sound British, but that that works.

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:05:35]:
The worst insult. Oh,

Raphael Harry [01:05:41]:
you saw him. Oh, man. I don't know. That's not crazy. You know, Nigeria, that's that's actually a pretty compliment

Ashwin Goutham Gopi [01:05:47]:
to me.

Raphael Harry [01:05:49]:
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